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     /         -Combat Revisions Forum-        \
     |             -July 16, 1999-             |
     |  Recorded & Edited by Aubrey McMichaels |
     \___http://pages.prodigy.net/aubreymcm/___/


Trevor Rage wanders out of a nearby crowd.
Trevor Rage waves.
Trevor Rage calls the assembly to order.  After a moment the crowd quiets down.
Trevor Rage says, "Alright.  Thanks to everyone for coming to the combat forum."
Trevor Rage says, "There's a very, very good reason for this event.  I've done some
 of the basic work on combat, and it's time to start working on the real nitty
 gritty.  The flavor of the whole thing.  For this, I want to make sure I have the
 best ideas and that the ideas I already have are good ones to most of us."
Trevor Rage says, "Now.. I'll tell you some of my plans so far.."
Trevor Rage says, "You've seen the new combat related skills, probably.  If not.."
Trevor Rage says, "They are Boxing, Grappling, Throwing, Kicking, Thrown Weapons,
 Blunt Weapons, Two Handed Weapons, Evasion, Knife Fighting, Fencing, and Paired
 Weapons."
Trevor Rage says, "Right now the damage system is done.  There will be a big
 difference there."
Trevor Rage says, "Instead of taking three ranks of damage (minor, serious,
 critical), there will be 7 levels."
Trevor Rage says, "This means you can get banged up more and live longer overall."
Trevor Rage says, "However, if you are well over your head, you'll be dead in no
 time."
Trevor Rage says, "We also have some cool new damage "types".  For example, if you
 ever wanted a stun gun, we have electrical damage.  Weird stuff like that."
Trevor Rage says, "And, I've set up the system to handle all kinds of things, such
 as animals etc, in the system.  Also, you may see some perps fight other perps."
Trevor Rage says, "And yes, you will have the ability to take your angst out on
 each other in PvP areas for consenting duels."
Trevor Rage says, "I'm taking it slow, doing it as detailed as possible, to make it
 the best system possible.  I'd like it to be fun and something we can use for many
 different uses."
Trevor Rage says, "I've also put together a system of stances.  It's still under
 work, but the ideas are pretty neat.  Stances based on what kind of weapon you're
 using.  Also attack types based on the type of weapon you use."
Trevor Rage says, "Also stances for acrobatic movements, etc. for attack or
 evasion."
Trevor Rage says, "Now.. some really good news."
Trevor Rage says, "I've put together a scale that I think is VERY fair.  It's used
 to determine how hard a perp should be."
Trevor Rage says, "While nothing is perfect, I'm hoping this will make perps your
 'level' much more balanced."
Trevor Rage says, "So if you currently feel perps your level are too hard, that
 should be changing greatly."
Trevor Rage says, "I'd like to see combat be exciting and fun, and I'd like to see
 "death" or however you wish to think of it.. as less common."
Trevor Rage says, "So you aren't dying ten times in the first 5 minutes of an
 invasion, for example."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "Now if something level 100 is running around and you're level
 20, you're gonna get creamed usually."
Trevor Rage grins.
Trevor Rage says, "This also means more perps.  I want to see perps for many level
 groups.  I'd like to eventually have MANY hunting areas for many different level
 groups."
Trevor Rage says, "It will be a while, but eventually every 5 levels would have a
 perp.  That means at least 40 different types of perps."
Trevor Rage says, "I happen to have 48 perps already in mind."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "Anyhoo."
Trevor Rage says, "I'm done there, I want to get some questions in here.  Start
 raising your hand if you have suggestions, questions or comments."

Allan Bullest stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Hello, Allan."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Allan Bullest exclaims, "Hi!"
Trevor Rage grins.
Allan Bullest says, "First of all, I want to compliment you on a fine
 presentation..I have SEVERAL questions"
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage says, "Go for it."
Trevor Rage grins.
Allan Bullest asks, "1st of which is: My ears immediatly perked when you said PvP
 was coming.. How soon, any additional details?"
Trevor Rage says, "Worst case, after skills/combat is done and we've reallocated.
 Best case, sooner."
Trevor Rage grins.
Allan Bullest bounces around happily.
Allan Bullest asks, "Ok #2...Will the SUBDUE command be coming at some point?"
Trevor Rage says, "Yes."
Allan Bullest asks, "soon?"
Trevor Rage says, "Hmm.  Perhaps.  It depends on how it fits with the rest of the
 pieces.  It's possible it may be very soon, but again, worst case scenario, when
 the rest roll in."
Allan Bullest says, "#3, is..With all the new possible perps coming, will the
 influx be tied to anything.. Example being, thugs possibly linked with Chandler
 Ghent..(speculation of course)"
Allan Bullest asks, "Basically will the new perps have any affiliations tied with
 them?"
Trevor Rage says, "I'm unsure at this time.  However, you know we like to kickoff
 events and openings with mystery related stuff."
Trevor Rage grins.
Allan Bullest beams happily.
Trevor Rage says, "Possibly.  We've not talked about that in detail yet."
Allan Bullest exclaims, "Ok.. that's it.. Thanks Trev!"
Trevor Rage says, "You bet."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Allan Bullest smiles.
Allan Bullest sits down.

Having finished addressing the assembly Allan Bullest sits back down.


Linda Gabriel stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Hello, Linda."
Trevor Rage grins.
Linda Gabriel says, "hi, I have a couple of questions"
Linda Gabriel smiles at Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage nods to Linda Gabriel.
Linda Gabriel says, "um, first of all will there be a list of postures for specific
 stances for perps"
Linda Gabriel asks, "like what perps are we talking about?"
Linda Gabriel asks, "the regular ones?"
Linda Gabriel asks, "and what are level 100 perps?"
Trevor Rage asks, "You mean are we speaking of accuse/non-accuse?"
Linda Gabriel says, "non accuse"
Trevor Rage says, "Harder perps, special attacks etc."
Linda Gabriel nods.
Trevor Rage says, "For example, I have thieves, various stalkers, guerillas, gang
 lords, etc."
Trevor Rage says, "And of course paranormal equivalents."
Trevor Rage says, "They'll have their own styles, attack types, features."
Linda Gabriel asks, "at my weak level of 13 does that mean that I go back to the
 west end?"
Trevor Rage says, "No, you'll have several perps to choose from at any level, 1 to
 200."
Linda Gabriel asks, "or can I still go to the jungle with friends that can protect
 me?"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Linda Gabriel giggles.
Linda Gabriel blushes a nice shade of off-pink.
Trevor Rage says, "You can go anywhere.  Whether you live depends on how well they
 protect you, etc."
Linda Gabriel says, "well i had to ask"
Linda Gabriel laughs!
Linda Gabriel says, "that's funny Trevor"
Linda Gabriel chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "There may be features to protect other players in specific. 
 I've not dug into that idea much yet."
Trevor Rage asks, "Anything else, Linda?"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Linda Gabriel asks, "will there be more weapons available to us and can we learn
 from perps like I hear you used to be able to do?"
Trevor Rage says, "Oh yeah."
Trevor Rage says, "I have a list of weapons that would make your head spin."
Linda Gabriel asks, "to which?"
Trevor Rage says, "To weapons."
Linda Gabriel says, "ah"
Trevor Rage says, "More of them."
Trevor Rage says, "And you'll learn combat skills as you use them."
Linda Gabriel asks, "do they get moto with us like before?"
Trevor Rage says, "Against perps, practice areas, and sparring with other players."
Linda Gabriel says, "the weapons i mean"
Linda Gabriel says, "sparing with other players, hmmmm"
Trevor Rage says, "You weapons don't chnage from fighting, other than damage.  Your
 skills improve."
Linda Gabriel shakes her head.
Linda Gabriel says, "ok, thanks"
Linda Gabriel smiles at Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "Sparring with other players is only by choice and in select
 areas.  You can't just go wallop someone if you don't like em."
Trevor Rage grins.
Linda Gabriel sits down.
Trevor Rage nods.

Having finished addressing the assembly Linda Gabriel sits back down.


James Hill stands up to address the assembly.

James Hill smiles.
Trevor Rage says, "Hello, James."
Trevor Rage smiles.
James Hill says, "Thanks, Trevor."
Trevor Rage smiles.
James Hill asks, "Will this new system allow for damage from pets and mounts? Does
 this mean that a pet system is somewhere down the road?"
Trevor Rage says, "There are no plans for pets or mounts specifically.  However, if
 there were and we wanted them to get hurt or killed, the system is capable of
 handling that."
James Hill nods.
James Hill asks, "One other question. Does the system allow for non-violent combat,
 like professional wrestling?"
Trevor Rage says, "Yep."
James Hill smiles.
Trevor Rage says, "Both in practice and for practical purposes."
James Hill says, "Excelent."
James Hill nods.
James Hill says, "Thanks, Big Boss Man."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
James Hill throws his hands in the air like Stone Cold.
Trevor Rage says, "Thanks for the questions."

Having finished addressing the assembly James Hill sits back down.


Jess Whiterose stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage asks, "Jess?"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Jess Whiterose says, "I have a suggestion on an evasive tactic"
Trevor Rage nods to Jess Whiterose.
Jess Whiterose says, "the vaguely mentioned hiding might be nice, of course
 intelligent perps might notice it"
Trevor Rage nods.
Jess Whiterose says, "but it might allow a younger guy or gal that has skill in it
 to get out of the room"
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage says, "Exactly."
Jess Whiterose says, "also, I was wondering if we might suggest new types of areas
 for your perps"
Trevor Rage says, "Especially if the perp weren't that bright to begin with."
Trevor Rage grins.
Jess Whiterose says, "via feedback or the boards"
Trevor Rage says, "Absolutely."
Trevor Rage says, "Either is fine.  The boards are best if you want to start a
 discussion.  But feel free to toss a 40 page manual in my mailbox if you want."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jess Whiterose says, "Also, I would encourage you not to reward pvp with noto for
 obvious reasons"
Trevor Rage says, "And I've had a couple ideas for hunting areas already, and I
 have them on file."
Trevor Rage says, "No, noto for PvP, but skill will be granted."
Trevor Rage says, "er No, NO noto for PvP"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jess Whiterose says, "alrighty that's it for the moment, sounds exciting"
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage says, "Thanks, Jess."

Having finished addressing the assembly Jess Whiterose sits back down.


Ray Krantz stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage asks, "Ray?"
Ray Krantz exclaims, "Hi!"
Ray Krantz says, "Ok, three quick questions."
Trevor Rage says, "Hello."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Trevor Rage nods.
Ray Krantz says, "1) Um, might there be um more profession-based perps i.e.
 apparitions, etc? Just so the Paras don't have all the fun."
Ray Krantz coughs.
Trevor Rage says, "Sure. The hard part is tying a perp to a profession in a fun
 way.  But if you have an idea, feel free to share it."
Ray Krantz exclaims, "Yeah, we can have um, mean tourist take pictures of us
 without asking and chase them down and steal their camera!"
Ray Krantz says, "..or something."
Ray Krantz says, "Anyway: #2)"
Trevor Rage says, "The hope was that paranormal perps would help Academians out
 some too, if they studied in para skills.  However, keep in mind that professions
 won't be as much of a restricting thing, soon."
Trevor Rage nods.
Ray Krantz says, "Are the majority of the 200 levels of perpetrators going to be
 non-accuse or accuse, because after a while, non-accuse do get a tad boring."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "I'd like to see the option for accusables available throughout
 life, from 1 to 200."
Ray Krantz asks, "And will any of them be searchable? And if so, could we kind of
 cut back on the coffers?"
Ray Krantz ducks his head.
Ray Krantz says, "I liked the jungle violents, myself. But that's just me."
Trevor Rage says, "Probably so, and I've already cut back.  We'll be using a new
 'treasure' system."
Ray Krantz asks, "Yay and can we have more food!?"
Ray Krantz gets some animal cookies from inside his neon-blue bag.
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Ray Krantz takes a bite of his animal cookies.
Ray Krantz says, "Yum."
Trevor Rage says, "Totally off topic, but I'd like to see more shops/menus for food
 and clothing."
Trevor Rage grins.
Trevor Rage asks, "Anything else, Ray?"
Ray Krantz says, "Uh. Ok, I think that's it -- i had more stuff but i forgot. Silly
 me."
Ray Krantz sits down.
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage grins.

Having finished addressing the assembly Ray Krantz sits back down.

Desserae StBlaire stands up to address the assembly.

Desserae StBlaire exclaims, "hi!"
Trevor Rage says, "Heya, Desserae."
Desserae StBlaire says, "ok, I have two questions"
Desserae StBlaire smiles.
Trevor Rage nods.
Desserae StBlaire asks, "First of all, regarding the new combat stances, will there
 be options for weaponless combat styles? Like kung-fun or boxing or drunken
 monkey?"
Desserae StBlaire grins.
Desserae StBlaire says, "I can live without the drunken monkey style though..."
Trevor Rage says, "Well, sort of.  It's a bit hard to explain, you'll have to see
 the interface.."
Trevor Rage says, "But basically, there will be unarmed combat movements and
 styles."
Desserae StBlaire nods.
Trevor Rage says, "They will not require one to know what 'drunken monkey' means,
 though."
Trevor Rage grins.
Desserae StBlaire grins.
Desserae StBlaire asks, "Ok, my second question is about the animals; How exactly
 are you going to put these things on the island?"
Desserae StBlaire says, "am I going to hit a lion on ocean or something.."
Trevor Rage says, "We're not sure how or even if we'll have animals in these types
 of situations.  However, if they are, it will be realistic and as humane as
 possible.  I'd never get lions past Ceit, she'd kill me for thinking of it."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "Not to mention they don't belong on the Isle in a realism
 sense."
Desserae StBlaire says, "Ok, just don't kill the squirrels"
Desserae StBlaire grins.
Trevor Rage says, "But, who knows.  Maybe a shark will come after you when you're
 swimming one day or something."
Trevor Rage grins.
Desserae StBlaire giggles.
Desserae StBlaire exclaims, "ok, I'm done! thanks!"
Trevor Rage says, "No, someone already killed Garrett's frogs."
Linda Gabriel went through an archway.
Trevor Rage babbles incoherently.
Trevor Rage says, "Which I fixed by the way."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "Thanks."
Trevor Rage smiles.

Having finished addressing the assembly Desserae StBlaire sits back down.

Kelsey Landon stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage asks, "Kelsey?"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Kelsey Landon says, "With the PvP duels and all, will it be so that you are
 challenged, and then have the options of accepting or declining in a formal way so
 that they can't just steal you if you're sleepy and take you to the area? "
Trevor Rage says, "Yes.  Let me embellish a little."
Kelsey Landon nods.
Trevor Rage says, "#1 You will have to be in a PvP area to be challenged."
Kelsey Landon nods.
Trevor Rage says, "#2 You will have to accept by using a command, to be in a PvP
 fight."
Ray Krantz stands back up.
Ray Krantz went through an archway.
Trevor Rage says, "#3 I'd like to have verbs to make yourself not 'stealable'
 anyway.  Some of you play DR.  Something like AVOID."
Trevor Rage says, "That should cover PvP concerns."
Kelsey Landon says, "Okay! That was my only question"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Trevor Rage exclaims, "OK, thanks!"
Kelsey Landon smiles.
Kelsey Landon sits down.

Having finished addressing the assembly Kelsey Landon sits back down.


Armand Chascour stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Hello, Armand."
Trevor Rage grins.
Armand Chascour says, "hello"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Armand Chascour says, "so we get eletrical weapons..want to expand on that, or is
 it a surprise"
Armand Chascour asks, "like flame, concussion/explosive weapons?"
Trevor Rage says, "Well, basically, I set up the "damage" system to handle many
 different damage types.  I won't mention them all.."
Armand Chascour nods.
Armand Chascour says, "any chance that we'll have automatic weapons"
Trevor Rage says, "But, there are many, the classics, piercing, slicing, crushing,
 burning.."
Armand Chascour seems happy.
Trevor Rage says, "Also electrical, freezing, implosion.. some others."
Armand Chascour makes Igor-like burbles.
Trevor Rage says, "When will you see all these? No idea."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Armand Chascour rubs his hands together.
Trevor Rage says, "But you'll see all or most of them as we think up ideas for
 them."
Armand Chascour asks, "Implosion? how do you do that outside of vaccuum?"
Armand Chascour asks, "or is that for paranormals?"
Trevor Rage says, "And I've not decided on how to do automatics and make them
 fair."
Armand Chascour asks, "Fair??"
Armand Chascour scoffs.
Armand Chascour asks, "who wants fair?"
Trevor Rage says, "Not sure on implosion yet.  But there are methods."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Armand Chascour asks, "last question, will animal attacks give us a chance to
 retaliate, or wil it be like the croc, done from ambush?"
Trevor Rage says, "Well, tell you what Armand.. I'll give you a .22 rifle and the
 perp a M16 auto."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "And we'll discuss "fair"."
Trevor Rage grins.
Armand Chascour asks, "what, the original "no-clean" pre-64 M16, or the current
 M16-A2?"
Armand Chascour says, "well yeah I see what you mean..."
Armand Chascour blushes a nice shade of off-pink.
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "I was looking over several M16s the other day actually.  Don't
 get me started, we'll put everyone to sleep."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage asks, "Anything else?"
Armand Chascour says, "just the animals"
Trevor Rage says, "Ah, missed that one."
Trevor Rage says, "If animals are thrown in the mix, it would be in various
 methods, depending on the purpose the animal is to serve."
Trevor Rage says, "The damage system is capable of handling damage to these
 animals, however, if it was needed to."
Armand Chascour says, "that doesnt sound encouraging"
Armand Chascour exclaims, "thanks trevor!"
Armand Chascour sits down.
Trevor Rage says, "You bet."
Trevor Rage grins.

Having finished addressing the assembly Armand Chascour sits back down.


Lacy Southern stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Hello, Lacy."
Lacy Southern asks, "Hello ... Will an organized league be set up for PvP or will
 that be left up to the players?"
Trevor Rage asks, "League, as in a wrestling association, or a group of
 sharpshooters, or what have you?"
Trevor Rage says, "Not sure I understand the question."
Lacy Southern says, "Yes, that's what I mean."
Lacy Southern asks, "Such as a wrestling association or a command so you can see
 who's the best at that time?"
Trevor Rage says, "Hmm."
Trevor Rage says, "Well right now we have no plans to create an association.  But
 if players put something together, we may assist in promoting it and such."
Lacy Southern smiles.
Trevor Rage says, "After all, it does foster RP.  Something we want."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Lacy Southern points at James Hill.
Lacy Southern grins.
Lacy Southern says, "Final question ..."
Trevor Rage nods.
Lacy Southern says, "When PvP comes into play, I know that before the fighting
 begins, players must accept the challenge first."
Lacy Southern asks, "But, will it be level based?"
Lacy Southern asks, "Such as, will a level 50 player be able to fight a level 10
 player?"
Lacy Southern asks, "Under any circumstances?"
Lacy Southern says, "And I almost forgot ..."
Lacy Southern grins.
Trevor Rage says, "Well yes and no.  If it were a competition with rules, yes.  If
 Joe and Sam want to beat each other to a pulp for the fun of it, no."
Lacy Southern nods.
Trevor Rage says, "Totally depends on the context."
Trevor Rage grins.
Lacy Southern says, "When a player wins the fight over another player .."
Lacy Southern asks, "Will the winner get some of the loser's cash or clothing or
 equipment?"
Trevor Rage says, "No way."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Lacy Southern says, "Darn."
Lacy Southern grins.
Lacy Southern says, "Thank you, Trevor."
Trevor Rage says, "They can go play UO if they want to loot bodies.  I don't want
 the screaming."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Lacy Southern laughs!
Trevor Rage says, "You're welcome."
Trevor Rage says, "However, if it's a competition, they might win a cash purse for
 the win, etc."
Lacy Southern says, "That would be very cool."
Trevor Rage nods.
Lacy Southern smiles.
Trevor Rage asks, "Anything else?"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Lacy Southern says, "No, I think that's it.  Thank you."
Lacy Southern smiles at Trevor Rage.

Having finished addressing the assembly Lacy Southern sits back down.

Trevor Rage smiles.

Chris Skyhawk stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Hey, Chris."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Chris Skyhawk waves.
Chris Skyhawk says, " I have a few quick questions"
Trevor Rage nods.
Chris Skyhawk says, " First..."
Chris Skyhawk asks, "Are you going to sell armor at the armory?"
Chris Skyhawk says, "With all these perps running around"
Chris Skyhawk grins.
Trevor Rage says, "Yes."
Chris Skyhawk says, " I don't wanna just walk in and get gunned down"
Chris Skyhawk nods to Trevor Rage.
Chris Skyhawk says, "Next,"
Chris Skyhawk says, "About the animals..."
Trevor Rage nods.
Chris Skyhawk says, "Are we going to have recreational hunting"
Chris Skyhawk says, "You know, hide behind the bushes, wait for an animal to walk
 in"
Chris Skyhawk says, " But if you step on a branch, it gets startled and run away"
Trevor Rage says, "I'm not sure at this time. I'm just making sure the system can
 handle it if we have any combat involving non-humans."
Chris Skyhawk says, "runs"
Chris Skyhawk asks, "Or is it going to be like the snarling vicious squirrel comes
 in and attacks you?"
Chris Skyhawk giggles.
Trevor Rage says, "Uh.. no."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "No squirrel combat."
Chris Skyhawk snickers.
Chris Skyhawk says, "But they're carrying disease."
Chris Skyhawk flails his arms about.
Chris Skyhawk says, "One more"
Trevor Rage says, "I mean they bite nastily and all, but we're not going to turn
 downtown into a Monty Python sketch."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage nods.
Chris Skyhawk says, "With the PvP"
Chris Skyhawk says, "Are we going to have tournaments, like levels 15-20 knife
 combat tournament"
Chris Skyhawk says, "or levels 6-8 blunt tournament"
Trevor Rage says, "I'd like to see something like that, yes."
Chris Skyhawk grins.
Chris Skyhawk says, "That's it for now"
Trevor Rage nods.
Chris Skyhawk sits down.
Trevor Rage says, "Alright.  Thanks."
Trevor Rage smiles.

Having finished addressing the assembly Chris Skyhawk sits back down.


Jon Garfield stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Evening, Jon."
Jon Garfield says, "Hi"
Jon Garfield says, "Will we ever be able to revive each other? It mentions it when
 you're dead, about waiting till the paramedics comes or someone revives you."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "That's a weird thing in the system that isn't easily changed
 unfortunately."
Jon Garfield asks, "So no CPR or anything?"
Trevor Rage says, "I wouldn't say we will or won't have it.  Right now, there are
 no plans for it though."
Jon Garfield nods.
Trevor Rage says, "But it has crossed my mind, yes."
Jon Garfield says, "Also, will there be a way to end a stun sooner than usual,
 based on your skill? Some perps seem to be able to end them sooner than they
 should. Perhaps alter the shake command to allow "shake stun" or something, and if
 your skill is high enough, you'd shake off the effects of the stun."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Trevor Rage says, "Hmm.  Well, I'd like to think that anyone would try to shake a
 stun by reflex.. but the potency of a stun SHOULD be based on something."
Trevor Rage says, "And yes, some attack types or manuevers will cause stuns more
 easily."
Trevor Rage says, "As well as knockdowns, loss of advantage in the fight, fatigue,
 etc."
Jon Garfield nods.
Trevor Rage asks, "Anything else, Jon?"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Jon Garfield says, "Does the new damage system mean we'll see the return of the
 fiery miners sometime soon? Those were pretty neat"
Trevor Rage says, "You will see them or something along their lines, yes."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Trevor Rage says, "I sorta made up the fiery miners on a whim.  It's a smoke and
 mirrors illusion.  You'll see the real thing eventually."
Jon Garfield asks, "Like ones that zap us with lightning bolts for the electrical
 wounds?"
Jon Garfield grins.
Trevor Rage says, "Or cold damage, etc. Yep."
Jon Garfield says, "I liked 'em, it was interesting to be attacked from another
 room"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jon Garfield says, "Not something I'd probably like on a daily basis, but a nice
 change"
Jon Garfield grins.
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage asks, "Have you witnessed the "Implosion" spell in GS3?"
Jon Garfield shakes his head.
Jon Garfield says, "Haven't ever been there"
Trevor Rage says, "Annihilates anything that moves in the room it is cast in, and
 every adjacent."
Trevor Rage shudders.
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "Anyhoo."
Jon Garfield says, "Wow"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Jon Garfield says, "Oh, I was thinking"
Jon Garfield says, "Along the lines of perp types..."
Jon Garfield says, "Will we see stuff like armies of vampires or werewolves or
 mummies or anything? I remember some of us half expecting to fight mummies at that
 museum gala a while back."
Jon Garfield chuckles.
Jon Garfield says, "Maybe not as a standard perp type, but for special occasions"
Trevor Rage says, "Well, I have to say.. I'm hesitant because of realism.. but most
 of you seem to love the paranormal stuff a lot.  So, there's a very good chance
 you'll see some things like that."
Jon Garfield lets out a hearty cheer for Trevor Rage.
Jon Garfield says, "Ok, I think that's it"
Jon Garfield smiles.
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage grins.
Trevor Rage says, "Alright.  Thanks."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Jon Garfield says, "Glad to hear the PvP is limited"
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage says, "It will be fair and reasonable."
Jon Garfield nods.

Having finished addressing the assembly Jon Garfield sits back down.


John Edmiston stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Evening, John."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Trevor Rage asks, "John, are you with us?"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Trevor Rage waves his hands in front of John Edmiston.
Trevor Rage says, "I paged John.  We'll give him a moment."
Trevor Rage whistles a cheerful tune.
Trevor Rage says, "Alright, we're moving on.  John please jump back in line when
 you come back."
Trevor Rage grins.

Having finished addressing the assembly John Edmiston sits back down.


Jess Whiterose stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage exclaims, "Welcome back!"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jess Whiterose says, "oh"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jess Whiterose says, "sorry"
Trevor Rage exclaims, "Sorry, shoulda said Hi Jess!"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jess Whiterose asks, "What about improvised weapons?"
Jess Whiterose says, "skill providing of course"
Jess Whiterose says, "ordinary objects in an area"
Trevor Rage says, "I'd like to see them.  However, I'm not sure of the best way to
 make sure you're using something that makes sense."
Jess Whiterose nods.
Trevor Rage says, "If you throw a water balloon, or a tennis ball, or a cupcake at
 a perp..it's not gonna kill them."
Jess Whiterose says, "Just a question.  I would like to see an equivalent to drag,
 as a helpful measure down the road"
Jess Whiterose says, "Be nice to get a knocked down comrade on their feet again"
Trevor Rage says, "So the trick is teaching the system the difference between a
 cupcake and a candlestick.. pardon me for the "Clue" reference."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage nods.
Jess Whiterose says, "or into another room"
Trevor Rage says, "Drag would be very nice to have for stunned or badly hurt
 players."
Jess Whiterose says, "I am thinking only for combat groups of course, not dragging
 someone somewhere dangerous"
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage says, "Well, if we were to literally take AVOID from DR, it has an
 option to avoid dragging also, so it's toggable."
Jess Whiterose says, "I would also like to see areas that have skills connected to
 getting to the perps, like higher level areas with alot of climbing and swimming
 skills like in the jungle"
Trevor Rage says, "But who knows.  We port things from other games sometimes.  I
 like to do my own stuff personally, but sometimes it's easier to steal stuff."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jess Whiterose nods to Trevor Rage.
Jess Whiterose asks, "Can you give us an example of paired weapons?"
Trevor Rage asks, "A knife in each hand?"
Jess Whiterose grins.
Trevor Rage asks, "Two handguns?"
Jess Whiterose obviously likes that.
Jess Whiterose throws his head back and howls!
Trevor Rage asks, "A pair of nuchuku?"
Trevor Rage says, "etc."
Trevor Rage says, "ugh, I blew that spelling, sorry."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jess Whiterose says, "I like the idea of protective clothing being available in a
 store as well, Rage"
Trevor Rage nods.
Jess Whiterose says, "Thanks I am still doing this"
Jess Whiterose slobbers all over himself.
Trevor Rage says, "I've wanted that for a while.  I feel it's good for many
 reasons."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jess Whiterose grins.
Trevor Rage asks, "Anything else, Jess?"
Jess Whiterose says, "that's it, prepare for mail"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Jess Whiterose smiles.
Trevor Rage says, "Fire at will."

Having finished addressing the assembly Jess Whiterose sits back down.


Arielle Drummond stands up to address the assembly.

Arielle Drummond smiles.
Trevor Rage asks, "Arielle?"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Arielle Drummond says, "I just had a question and a comment about the new hunting
 areas."
Trevor Rage nods to Arielle Drummond.
Arielle Drummond asks, "Are they going to be in areas that can be avoided if you
 don't want to fight?"
Arielle Drummond says, "Areas more like the park."
Trevor Rage says, "Yep.  I'd like to spread out the perps.  For example, some folks
 also don't like the Non-Violents with the Violents, or the Accusables with the
 Non-Accusables."
Arielle Drummond nods.
Trevor Rage says, "I'd like to spread it out mostly or totally."
Arielle Drummond says, "That's exactly what I mean."
Trevor Rage says, "We'll need a lot of areas, but I want to spread it out, yes."
Arielle Drummond says, "I know it's rough on my less combative characters to run
 through the West End."
Trevor Rage says, "In some cases they may be mixed up, especially some types.. like
 non accuse violent with other non accuse violent"
Trevor Rage nods to Arielle Drummond.
Arielle Drummond nods.
Arielle Drummond says, "That's all I wanted to know."
Trevor Rage asks, "Anything else?"
Arielle Drummond smiles.
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage says, "Ok."
Trevor Rage grins.
Trevor Rage says, "Thanks."

Having finished addressing the assembly Arielle Drummond sits back down.


Ami Stuart stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Evening, Ami."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Ami Stuart says, "opps my question was answered long time ago"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "Ok."
Ami Stuart says, "sorry"

Having finished addressing the assembly Ami Stuart sits back down.

Trevor Rage says, "Not at all."
Trevor Rage grins.

John Edmiston stands up to address the assembly.

John Edmiston yawns.
Trevor Rage says, "Welcome back, John."
Trevor Rage grins.
John Edmiston says, "Sorry bout that, little emergency I had to take care of"
Trevor Rage says, "Queue is empty if anyone thinks of anything."
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage says, "Gotcha."
John Edmiston says, "A suggestion is all, for PvP, maybe a special area where you
 could play a capture the flag type game"
Trevor Rage says, "Possibly.  I'd like to add new games in general, combat related
 or not."
John Edmiston says, "organize teams and such"
John Edmiston nods.
Trevor Rage says, "I've never heard anyone complain we have too many games."
Trevor Rage grins.
John Edmiston grins.
John Edmiston says, "we have too little"
John Edmiston coughs.
Trevor Rage says, "We have a lot compared to most games, actually.  But I'd like to
 see a LOT more."
Trevor Rage says, "Especially in our modern genre.  There are so many games out
 there that can easily and reasonably be added in."
John Edmiston says, "And, uh, for animals, monkeys in the jungle"
John Edmiston nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage chuckles.
John Edmiston says, "and off-topic.."
Trevor Rage says, "I'm not even gonna ask where this whole monkey fascination came
 from."
Trevor Rage grins.
John Edmiston says, "when the cone is on, a way to remove yourself from the quere
 and/or check how far it will be till your turn"
John Edmiston taps a fuzzy brown monkey tail.
Trevor Rage nods.
John Edmiston says, "Gettin in touch with my ancestors"
John Edmiston grins.
Trevor Rage says, "Reasonable request."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
John Edmiston says, "Grazie"
Trevor Rage says, "Yep."
Trevor Rage smiles.

Having finished addressing the assembly John Edmiston sits back down.


Desserae StBlaire stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Welcome back, Desserae."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Desserae StBlaire asks, "Will the PvP conflicts limited to two-people duels? Or
 could a alchohol-induced bar-wide brawl be possible?"
Desserae StBlaire says, "...it's nice to be here."
Desserae StBlaire grins.
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "Well technically speaking, we can have every player in game in a
 free for all match if we want.  But in some cases, it would be one on one.  Most
 fights will probably one on one. That will be mostly up to the players involved."
Desserae StBlaire says, "Thanks, that's all."
Trevor Rage says, "Thanks."
Trevor Rage smiles.

Having finished addressing the assembly Desserae StBlaire sits back down.


Luca Brazzi stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Hello, Luca."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Luca Brazzi says, "Hullo Trev, holster works great."
Luca Brazzi says, "scuse me if Im being redundant but I'm catching the tail end of
 this thing"
Trevor Rage grins.
Trevor Rage nods.
Luca Brazzi says, "I actually only come to get a glimpse of Zoe's dimples, but
 alas, shes not here"
Luca Brazzi exclaims, "kidding!"
Luca Brazzi chuckles.
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Luca Brazzi says, "anyway...."
Luca Brazzi says, "We need a cool area like the mines, but for PI's"
Luca Brazzi asks, "has that been discussed tonight?"
Luca Brazzi grins.
Trevor Rage smiles.
Trevor Rage says, "It hasn't."
Trevor Rage says, "I'd like to see areas to use your skills more often, in the
 process of hunting."
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "Pick a lock on a door, get past a security system somehow,
 whatever."
Luca Brazzi says, "any plans for that, us Dicks are getting the short end of the
 stick, no pun intended"
Luca Brazzi winks at Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage grins.
Trevor Rage says, "No explicit plans.  If you have some, pass them on.  I'll see
 what I can come up with in the process of building areas etc."
Luca Brazzi says, "okay, I'll give it some thought, thanks for your time."
Luca Brazzi smiles at Trevor Rage.
Luca Brazzi sits down.
Trevor Rage says, "You bet."

Having finished addressing the assembly Luca Brazzi sits back down.


Ami Stuart stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage grins at Ami Stuart.
Ami Stuart asks, "it was mentioned that there was gonna be armor sold in the armory
 correct?"
Trevor Rage says, "That is correct."
Ami Stuart asks, "like bulletproof items?"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage asks, "Are you familiar with Kevlar?"
Ami Stuart nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "Used to make protective vests, manufactured by duPont."
Ami Stuart says, "I just paid tons of money for my bp items I hate to see it become
 something common"
Trevor Rage says, "duPont doesn't make bulletproof vests.  Call them that, and
 you'll be corrected.  Bullet resistant."
Trevor Rage says, "In other words.."
Trevor Rage says, "There will be things to help you live longer."
Trevor Rage says, "Against bullets, included."
Ami Stuart nods.
Trevor Rage says, "But, you won't be invincible."
Trevor Rage grins.
Ami Stuart says, "alright"
Trevor Rage says, "And the level of protection is ALWAYS in direct association to
 price."
Ami Stuart nods.
Trevor Rage says, "Thanks."
Trevor Rage smiles.

Having finished addressing the assembly Ami Stuart sits back down.


John Edmiston stands up to address the assembly.

John Edmiston furrows his brow.
Trevor Rage smiles.
Trevor Rage says, "Hello, John."
John Edmiston says, "I am not sure if I like the idea of any armor being sold in
 stores"
John Edmiston asks, "will it be heavy duty armor?"
Trevor Rage asks, "Can you explain why?"
Trevor Rage says, "The armor sold in stores will be mostly standard issue, basic
 stuff."
John Edmiston says, "Well, it would've been nice to have some armor as a mewbie,
 but I think armor and really good weapons should be reserved to be done by
 merchants"
John Edmiston says, "newbie"
Trevor Rage says, "Anything that is above that in quality will be very pricy.  And
 you'll never get something out of an every day store that's near merchant
 quality."
John Edmiston nods.
John Edmiston says, "ok"
Trevor Rage says, "Anyone who was here for the noto pool stuff.."
Trevor Rage shudders.
John Edmiston smiles.
Trevor Rage says, "Knows I'm all for balance."
John Edmiston chuckles.
John Edmiston nods.
John Edmiston says, "Thanks Trev"
John Edmiston sits down.
Trevor Rage nods.

Having finished addressing the assembly John Edmiston sits back down.


Luca Brazzi stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage says, "Welcome back, Luca."
Trevor Rage smiles.
Luca Brazzi says, "speaking of merchants, I've been here over a year now and havent
 had one chance to purchase a good weapon"
Luca Brazzi smiles.
Luca Brazzi says, "thank"
Luca Brazzi asks, "I have the cash, but where's the weapon guy?"
Luca Brazzi mumbles something unprintable.
Trevor Rage says, "Depends on what you call a 'good' weapon."
Trevor Rage says, "However.."
Trevor Rage says, "You WILL see more weapon merchanting after combat is revised."
Luca Brazzi says, "I mean, something special made for me"
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Luca Brazzi says, "that would be nice"
Trevor Rage says, "As I explained on the message boards a while ago, I will have to
 do a lot of work to 'retrofit' EVERY weapon to the new system."
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "Every single one.  So I'm tying my own hands until then on
 throwing weapons out in the populace."
Trevor Rage grins.
Luca Brazzi asks, "does that mean a godlike weapon might not be so godlike under
 the new system?"
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "Well it's like this.."
Trevor Rage says, "Currently weapons only have one real property."
Trevor Rage says, "That's bonus to hit / defend."
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "I mean they have secondary properties like weight and whether
 they slash or pierce etc."
Luca Brazzi says, "right"
Trevor Rage says, "You WILL keep your plus to hit/defend, and weight of the weapon
 etc."
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "However, your weapon will inherit properties in a realistic way. 
 A dagger will act like a dagger, a shotgun will act like a shotgun."
Luca Brazzi asks, "can you explain what you mean by that?"
Trevor Rage says, "Right now, in terms of damage, a shotgun hits no harder than a
 .22 .."
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "It has a higher chance of hitting, but they do the same type and
 amount of damage."
Trevor Rage says, "Cause the same amount of bleeding, etc."
Luca Brazzi says, "not very realistic"
Trevor Rage says, "Nope.  This is why it's changing to be realistic."
Luca Brazzi nods.
Luca Brazzi asks, "so we wont see penknifes killing stalkers in one hit?"
Luca Brazzi grins at Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "Combat on Modus right now is very basic.  It was made that way
 because we're a mystery game.  However, being a mystery game doesn't forbid us
 from having a good combat system."
Trevor Rage grins.
Trevor Rage says, "No you won't."
Trevor Rage grins.
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage asks, "Anything else?"
Luca Brazzi asks, "mmkay, can you give some idea of how long this "retrofit" will
 take?"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Luca Brazzi pokes Trevor Rage in the ribs.
Luca Brazzi grins.
Trevor Rage says, "The retrofit for weapons will be instantaneous for common
 weapons."
Luca Brazzi nods.
Trevor Rage says, "For merchant weapons it will require some work."
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "If your weapon cannot be automatically retrofit, you may have to
 ASSIST to have it modified."
Luca Brazzi nods to Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "That would be non standard weapons."
Luca Brazzi says, "lots of work for you, my man"
Luca Brazzi chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "Lots."
Trevor pants.
Luca Brazzi grins.
Luca Brazzi says, "oh, one more thing....."
Trevor Rage says, "Well, I got 4 hours sleep this morning, and I've been coding
 since."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Luca Brazzi begins chuckling at Trevor Rage.
Luca Brazzi asks, "want to sell me a merchant blunt?"
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Luca Brazzi winks at Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "See my merchant character next time he's on and doing blunts,
 and sure."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Luca Brazzi smiles at Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage says, "Make the list, of course."
Trevor Rage grins.
Luca Brazzi laughs!
Luca Brazzi says, "thanks, I'm done"
Luca Brazzi sits down.
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage asks, "Alright.  We're at an empty queue.  Any final questions?"
Trevor Rage says, "I want to reiterate something we've said before."
Trevor Rage says, "Combat is one part of the game.  That's why there are 5 forums
 this month, and only one for combat."
Trevor Rage says, "Matter of fact, Raine is on a mystery cranking binge to give all
 kinds of info out, etc."
Trevor Rage says, "But for those who loved combat, I'd like to see it be the best
 possible."

Julie McCoy stands up to address the assembly.

Trevor Rage asks, "Julie?"
Trevor Rage smiles.
Julie McCoy asks, "I might have missed this.. what's the time frame for all of
 these changes?"
Julie McCoy smiles at Trevor Rage.
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Julie McCoy asks, "Forever?"
Julie McCoy grins.
Trevor Rage says, "I have two main projects at this moment... combat and the
 teaching system."
Trevor Rage says, "I've started work on combat, and I have an idea of what to do
 with the teaching code."
Julie McCoy nods.
Trevor Rage says, "Combat will not be rolled in until the skill system is done and
 released."
Julie McCoy asks, "And when's that expected to happen?"
Julie McCoy asks, "The skill system?"
Trevor Rage says, "But, some things like SUBDUE as mentioned earlier, may come in
 before.  It depends on how hard it is to make it work with the current (older)
 combat system."
Julie McCoy nods.
Trevor Rage says, "We have given a timeframe of within a few months for skills.  If
 we can have enough things to do with each skill, that's what we want."
Julie McCoy nods.
Julie McCoy says, "Okay"
Julie McCoy exclaims, "Thanks!"
Trevor Rage says, "Right now, however, this is a lot left to do for skills.  Not so
 much of converting old stuff and making new stuff."
Trevor Rage nods.
Trevor Rage says, "We're working on it."
Julie McCoy turns towards Trevor Rage and renders a snappy salute.
Trevor Rage grins.
Julie McCoy exclaims, "I'm sure you are!"
Julie McCoy sits down.
Trevor Rage grins.

Having finished addressing the assembly Julie McCoy sits back down.

Trevor Rage says, "Ok, we seem to be out of questions."
Trevor Rage says, "I wanted to check in with you all on combat, and get some ideas
 at the same time.  I think this went pretty well, and fairly quick.. quicker than
 reallocation went, anyhoo."
Trevor Rage chuckles.
Trevor Rage says, "If anyone has questions, comments or ideas, please jump on the
 message boards so we can discuss it.  Or email me."
Trevor Rage says, "I'm sure you've seen it a million times, but my email address is
 MO-TREVOR@PLAY.NET"
Trevor Rage says, "Or you can leave feedback on my web page www.role-players.com"
Trevor Rage says, "I'll be posting a log of this forum on that sight, if you want a
 copy or have a friend who missed the forum."
Trevor Rage says, "I want to thank you all for coming and sharing your time with
 me."
Trevor Rage opens the floor back up for general discussion.