_________________________________________ / -What's Coming Up Forum- \ | -April 14, 1999- | | Recorded & Edited by Morgan Whitney | \___http://pages.prodigy.net/aubreymcm/___/ [The Portmanteau Club, Sitting Room] You notice a swinging door, an ashcan, an archway and a large blackboard. Also in the room: Chris Cobain, Aubrey McMichaels who is seated, Bobby Stuart who is seated, Liz Larson who is seated, Michael Foley who is seated, Jesse Jones, Arielle Drummond who is seated, Patrick O'Brien who is seated, Kara McLoud who is seated, Celine Jensen who is seated, Jess Whiterose who is seated, Wegarius Hodge who is seated, Edward Straker who is seated, Snake Silvertongue who is seated Obvious exits: none. Siri Macallan came through an archway. Announcement: The Third Degree is starting now in the Portmanteau Club Sitting Room. Come join us! Trevor Rage sits down. Trevor Rage says, "Hello." Siri Macallan asks, "Is everyone ready?" Siri Macallan says, "The last time I did a Forum I didn't use the cone of silence." Siri Macallan says, "And we all did really well." Siri Macallan says, "So, it's up to you..." Siri Macallan says, "We can either sit on our hands and still the fidgets, or we can just make everyone quiet." Siri Macallan says, "Let's see how it goes." Siri Macallan says, "Okay! Today's topic is all about what is coming to our fair island." Siri Macallan says, "I'll go over some of the biggest changes and additions which we're working on, and take questions on those..." Siri Macallan says, "And then I'd also like to hear what you'd like to see over the next couple of years." Siri Macallan says, "Then, for those who are willing to stay... I'd like a confab on what to do about IC/OOC problems on the island." Siri Macallan exclaims, "So, with those things on the agenda... Let's start!" Siri Macallan says, "There are always new things being..." Siri Macallan says, "New things being created or altered..." Siri Macallan says, "Some are very far reaching, and change the tenor of the game... and some are small, and more for just the sake of cosmetics and general fun." Siri Macallan says, "The first addition is something I'm really excited about..." Siri Macallan says, "Morada will be having a society of Mentors." Siri Macallan says, "The other Simutronics games have had them for a while." Siri Macallan says, "And we decided that it was time here as well." Siri Macallan says, "Mentors are a society of players who spend their free time helping the new players, and promoting roleplaying on the island." Michael Foley asks, "A society?" Periwinkle Paris asks, "Do they have titles?" Jordyn Huntington says, "Not the same as GMs" Siri Macallan says, "They are NOT GMs." Michael Foley asks, "But...don't we already have GameHosts?" Emerald Daventry asks, "Like Volunteer workers?" Siri Macallan says, "The mentor program is primarily run by the mentor council." Periwinkle Paris says, "But when you look at them, what are their titles? because I have seen a lot of people with none." Siri Macallan says, "GameHosts are more technically inclined." Celine Jensen says, "When they are acting as a mentor you'd see Mentor Periwinkle" Siri Macallan says, "Mentors must be In Character and promote RPing as they help others." Emerald Daventry asks, "What's the criteria for being a mentor?" Siri Macallan says, "You can take a look over some of the Mentor information at mentor.play.net The Modus info isn't up yet, but you can get a pretty good idea by reading over the DragonRealms information..." Siri Macallan says, "And ignoring things like guilds." Siri Macallan grins. Damien Lyons asks, "When will we be able to apply as a mentor?" Damien Lyons says, "or to be one" Amanda Blair asks, "Is mentoring while in game a choice thing, like being opportunistic about it, or do you always have to help?" Siri Macallan says, "The basic criteria are: 1) The desire to help those in need, and the willingness to sacrifice your time to help others, 2) A good grasp of Moradian history, experience and game mechanics, 3) The desire and know-how to role-play, 4) The drive and initiative to come up with ideas, develop them and make them happen." Dan Skywalker asks, "Do we get noto for our help?" Siri Macallan says, "Nope." Dan Skywalker asks, "Or is just a voulenteer thing when were bored?" Damien Lyons says, "good, that would drive people to becoming mentors out of greed" Siri Macallan says, "You get the joy of knowing you're building a better community, sharing the game you love with new folks, and the ability to do events on your own." Siri Macallan says, "Anyone can help players anytime." Ferd Berfel asks, "Dont we sort of do that now?" Dan Skywalker asks, "do we get a price reduction?" Siri Macallan says, "That's ALWAYS been an option." Michael Foley asks, "Is it a large time committment, or can you be a full-time mentor who's not a full-time player?" Siri Macallan says, "Ferd, some do, some don't." Jordyn Huntington asks, "Siri? Can anyone be a Mentor who wants to help others? Or do we need apply?" Siri Macallan says, "This gives a little more structure to the idea, and gives those who are serious about it the tools to accomplish what they want to do." Siri Macallan says, "Jordyn, you need to apply." Ferd Berfel asks, "what sort of tools?" Amanda Blair says, "Oh, as in specialized HELP for the mentorally inclined." Siri Macallan says, "Ah, correction... the mentor site is mentors.play.net Plural, not singular." Dan Skywalker asks, "If we apply, do we have to stick to a scheadual?" Siri Macallan says, "You could say that." Dan Skywalker asks, "Are we assinged to times?" Siri Macallan says, "No, you don't have to stick to a schedule, but you will have to put in a certain number of hours each month." Dan Skywalker asks, "like 6:00-7:00 PM eastern?" Dan Skywalker asks, "or what?" You say, "I think she answered it." Dan Skywalker asks, "What happens when you dont complete the hours?" Michael Foley asks, "Has the program been worked out extensively enough for you to tell us how many monthly hours that would be, or do you not yet know?" Siri Macallan says, "Then your mentor status is reviewed." Wegarius Hodge says, "Siri, if you need to explain a lot of things without us interrupting with questions, please let us know." Michael Foley asks, "And do you need to be over 18?" Siri Macallan says, "Nope." Siri Macallan says, "Any player can do this." Dan Skywalker asks, "do we get to slip in and out of shadows?" Siri Macallan says, "No." You say, "Sometimes it would be easier to let her explain the program and then ask questions. Half the time your questions would be answer that way." Siri Macallan says, "The application is not yet on the website, but it's coming soon... I hope within a couple of weeks." Siri Macallan says, "Ideally, I'd love for us to be up and running in a month." Siri Macallan says, "Ah... I was reminded..." Siri Macallan says, "All mentors have to be of 15th level or higher." Siri Macallan says, "So... if you're not there yet... start perping." Dan Skywalker asks, "so this is basically a program to help out GMs and take people out of their time and make the players do it?" Trevor Rage says, "Just a little bit of advice.." Elise Evans says, "And roleplaying so you get those lovely bonuses." Damien Lyons says, "I know people who have been around for a year or so, and havent broken tenth... I dont feel there should be a level req to be a mentor..." Trevor Rage says, "If you aren't yet 15, and want to mentor soon, some good role-playing will both get your some role-play awards (and thereby notoriety) as well as a good warm up for mentoring." Dan Skywalker says, "I dont mean to be mean or anything" You say, "Think of the level requirement as experience. Your not going to know how the island works being at level one as someone who is at level 20." Siri Macallan says, "The level requirement is going to stand." Siri Macallan says, "What Morgan said." Michael Foley asks, "There's no exceptions for those who've been higher levels as previous characters?" Siri Macallan says, "Nope." Siri Macallan says, "The character you want to use as a mentor must be 15th." Siri Macallan asks, "Jess?" Siri Macallan says, "Dan, I'll answer your question in a moment." Dan Skywalker asks, "So what does this leave your job as, are they getting rid of GM's?" Damien Lyons says, "I didnt know mentoring was a status symbol, if I knew it was so superficial, I wouldnt have expressed any interest" Jess Whiterose says, "I have been to a mentoring meeting on another game and number one they watch for people who know and play by the rules" Siri Macallan says, "It helps." You say, "Feel free to use that cone of silence." Jess Whiterose says, "In fact they said they would review your player history" Siri Macallan says, "Let's put it this way..." Trevor Rage says, "Not unless you guys have some island editing tools up your sleeves that we don't know about." Jess Whiterose says, "mentoring is serious business, it represents the game" Siri Macallan says, "If you've had a ton of warnings, your language and behavior has been horrible and you don't RP... you can probably forget it." You say, "The red cross doesn't replace hospitals. Its just another form of help." Siri Macallan says, "Mentors are role-models." Michael Foley says, "Morgan and the metaphors." Dan Skywalker asks, "do mentors get to eject people perminently like you did to ebenezer freeman?" Siri Macallan says, "What it does for the GMs is gives us more opportunity to build." Dan Skywalker asks, "build what, your free time?" Siri Macallan says, "Mentors aren't GMs." Shelly Armstrong says, "i think we oughta change the mentor issue..its gonna turn into an argument" Ferd Berfel says, "Its basically what a few characters are already doing, without the little benefit of a title." Siri Macallan says, "Dan, if you don't wish to be civil, you can leave." Dan Skywalker says, "im sorry, i dont mean to be smart" Damien Lyons asks, "Well... ooc, and I appologize... but I am a mentor in another simutronics game, and by my experience, the job of a mentor is mostly to promote good roleplay and character relations, and to make the customers happy, since when does someone have to be level 15 to know enough about the island to want to help people?" Celine Jensen says, "No Dan it gives them time to fix bugs and create new areas on the island, etc." Dan Skywalker says, "sorry" Trevor Rage says, "Mentors have no tools to change the physical construction of the game, or enforce policies; They are here to help build a in character community, and help those who are new to the game and need help learning the ropes." Siri Macallan says, "Damien, you know that all the games in Simu have a level requirement." Damien Lyons says, "Yeah, I do" Siri Macallan says, "That's just the way it is." Damien Lyons says, "And I protest that in other arenas as well" Siri Macallan asks, "Elise?" Damien Lyons says, "This is not the only" Trevor Rage says, "The level requirement applies to all games as well, Damien." Elise Evans asks, "I know you've already said it won't change, but would you consider another character on the same account as someone who has at least one level 15 or above character?" Damien Lyons says, "Trevor, try readin" Elise Evans says, "I'm thinking if I might like to do it, but not as Elise." Trevor Rage coughs. Siri Macallan says, "Nope. The character you use as a mentor needs to be 15th, I'm afraid." Elise Evans says, "ok" John Smithe asks, "What is the age requirement?" Dan Skywalker says, "none" Siri Macallan says, "There is no age requirement." Siri Macallan asks, "Amanda?" Amanda Blair says, "It seems to me that those on noto breaks could mentor very well." Siri Macallan nods to Amanda Blair. Siri Macallan says, "One thing about the 15th level requirement... it's an opportunity to spend that time making your actual character as indepth as possible." Dan Skywalker asks, "In between helping people as a mentor, can we hunt and get noto?" Siri Macallan says, "Certainly." Siri Macallan asks, "Jordyn?" Jordyn Huntington asks, "What do you mean about "in-depth"? Creating a history for yourself? And by "good RP", that is all IC and no OOC absolutely?" Siri Macallan says, "Yep. That's what good IC is." Siri Macallan says, "All IC all the time." Siri Macallan says, "We had a RPing Forum a while back... how to create and expand your characters... give them history and depth." Siri Macallan says, "Some of the info from that forum is here on the blackboard." Siri Macallan says, "If you guys are interested, I'd be happy to do another RP forum." Liz Larson asks, "Will there be an application posted somewhere and will there be a limited number of applicants accepted as a mentor?" Dan Skywalker says, "I would like to know what the benifits are besides the feeling of helping people and being in RP" Michael Foley says, "None, Dan." Diana Troy asks, "thats not enough dan?" Siri Macallan says, "There will be an application on the Mentor website pretty soon..." Michael Foley says, "Don't want the kind of people that are in it for the benefits, I would think." Liz Larson says, "It's called volunteer work, you do it out of the kindness of your heart" Mark Grant says, "It's called being a nice guy .er person DAN" You say, "If your really nice you get a cookie" Michael Foley says, "He gets the point." Damien Lyons says, "Ill be back to argue some more people" Meghan Thomas asks, "you ahve to be level 15 to be kind?" Siri Macallan says, "And no, there is no limitation to how many people are mentors." Michael Foley says, "You have to be level 15 to be experienced and experienced to be helpful, Meghan." Siri Macallan asks, "Ethan?" Ethan Drakmir asks, "I dunno if you answered this yet. Came late, but will other islanders be able to figure out who a mentor is just be looking at them?" Siri Macallan says, "Mentors are your own characters." Ethan Drakmir says, "Thanks." Siri Macallan says, "They don't hand down policies or warnings or anything like that." Siri Macallan says, "So you use your regular characters." Shelly Armstrong says, "i haven't peeped nastily once..i was here a few years ago and now im back. i help any new arrival that i can and i dont feel that level 15 says that i am experienced.." Ethan Drakmir asks, "Yea I know, but I'll be wearing a mentor badge right?" Siri Macallan asks, "Amanda?" Shelly Armstrong says, "im level 7..15 is a long way away" Amanda Blair asks, "Will mentor be listed in your character description?" Siri Macallan nods to Ethan Drakmir. Meghan Thomas asks, "so being a mentor is just a title to be able to help people?" Jordyn Huntington asks, "We can all still help, right, like on the comm and whomever we see? Even if we're not Level 15?" Siri Macallan says, "I believe so, Amanda... when you're on duty." Siri Macallan says, "Meghan, no, you also have the opportunity to do some other things, like planning RPing events." Dan Skywalker says, "can we move on to another subject, I think we all understand this one" Shelly Armstrong says, "its not the benefits that attract anyone..its the feeling of helping and i feel helpless considering my level status" Siri Macallan says, "Shelly, I'll talk to the staff about the level requirements... but I'm 99% sure they'll stay put." Ferd Berfel asks, "Shelly, you just keep doing what you are doing... badge or no badge. What difference does it make?" Siri Macallan asks, "Has anyone any other quick questions on Mentoring?" Siri Macallan says, "When we get closer to opening things up, we'll probably have a Forum just to cover it." Elise Evans says, "I've just been flicking through the site you mentioned Siri .. it's great for info guys, have a look at it." You ask, "What was the site again?" Jordyn Huntington asks, "mentors.play.net?" John Smithe asks, "Do we get noto for being a mentor?" Elise Evans says, "no www first though" Siri Macallan says, "No, no notoriety." Siri Macallan says, "I'm about to lower the cone of silence." Jess Whiterose says, "Actually the worse comments I have heard from mentors on other games is they don't level as fast cause they are working" You exclaim, "Please, Siri!" Siri Macallan calls the assembly to order. After a moment the crowd quiets down. Siri Macallan says, "Ah well." Siri Macallan exclaims, "Okay... next big change!" Siri Macallan exclaims, "Skills!" Siri Macallan says, "As you all know we have a million billion skills." Siri Macallan says, "Some are unused, some are redundant..." Siri Macallan says, "We have decided to reorganize our skill list, ditching those which are redundant, grouping some of the "like" skills together, and making the whole list smaller and more precise." Siri Macallan says, "Before anyone panics... we are making sure that everyone's training points will carry over." Siri Macallan says, "Nothing will be lost." Siri Macallan says, "So if you have a huge skill level in handguns, you'll still be able to have that under the new system." Siri Macallan says, "Skills are going to be broken down into two categories... what we've been calling Hard and Soft skills." Siri Macallan says, "Hard skills are those skills which can be applied by "doing" something." Siri Macallan says, "So climbing or blunt weapon fighting are hard skills." Siri Macallan says, "Soft skill are those which are more esoteric... they may be used for mystery clues, or odd things around the island, but they aren't things you could improve with by actually doing." Siri Macallan says, "Training in soft skills would be done by going to an NPC, or teaching each other as you do now... or maybe by reading a book." Siri Macallan says, "What is to be hoped is that in the future we'll have as many skills as we can moved into the "Hard Skill" category... and they'll all have things you can do to improve them." Siri Macallan says, "This will not only make skills more manageble for everyone, but it will give everyone a heck of a lot more to actually do... beyond combat." Dan Skywalker stands up to address the assembly. Dan Skywalker asks, "How many skills are we talking about losing? And what was the purpose of Fashion Skill?" Trevor Rage says, "Also.." Dan Skywalker asks, "I mean how many skills will there be total?" Siri Macallan says, "The original purpose of Fashion was just that... anything covering fashion. Sewing, construction of clothing, judgement calls on style... knowing a Sears copy from a Channel." Trevor Rage says, "Er, I'll mention my note in a moment, pardon." Siri Macallan says, "Feel free, Trevor." Trevor Rage says, "Along with building skills as you use them.." Trevor Rage says, "Your stats will also change as you do certain things." Dan Skywalker asks, "How come we cant get it so the more you use a skill the more points you get?" Dan Skywalker says, "sorry trvor" Trevor Rage says, "You lift some weights, your strength will rise in time. If you stop working out, it will also gradually fall." Dan Skywalker says, "the lifting weights" Dan Skywalker exclaims, "Imm talking battle skills!" Siri Macallan asks, "Dan, chill out, okay?" Trevor Rage says, "I'm not going to go into detail about stats here, but needless to say, it's going to be fun, and we hope you'll enjoy customizing your characters." Trevor Rage says, "The more you use a hard skill, the more it will raise, Dan. Fighting skills are 'hard' skills." Dan Skywalker says, "I think your going to need a forum just for my questions" Trevor Rage says, "I'm done there, Siri." Siri Macallan says, "That's what the BB is for." Dan Skywalker asks, "BB?" Siri Macallan says, "Bulletin boards." Siri Macallan says, "To finish with your original question, I believe we managed to reduce the skills down to around 50." Dan Skywalker says, "feel free to go to the next person" Having finished addressing the assembly Dan Skywalker sits back down. Meghan Thomas stands up to address the assembly. Meghan Thomas says, "so because there are less skills will we get more skill points for the skill we want instead of the 4 or so we get now? " Siri Macallan says, "Points will be handled differently." Siri Macallan says, "Half of the skills you won't need to use points to train in, as you'll be improving them by using them." Meghan Thomas says, "and the other half.." Siri Macallan says, "The other half will have points, but it won't be a weighted scale based on profession." Siri Macallan says, "So if you have say... 10 points for soft skill training, you can spend them how ever you want, and all skills will be equal." Siri Macallan says, "One thing I will note here is that "professions" are going to change..." Siri Macallan says, "You will be able to be the profession which reflects what you train in." Siri Macallan says, "Or a selection of professions..." Siri Macallan says, "So if you have a high skill in theatre, you may choose to be seen as an actor." Dan Skywalker exclaims, "This is an outrage!" Meghan Thomas says, "so you can change professions multiple times? or just once..." Siri Macallan says, "Or not to have a profession listed at all." Having finished addressing the assembly Dan Skywalker sits back down. Trevor Rage says, "Your skill base will qualify you for a set of professions, of which you can choose, and change often in the game if you wish." Meghan Thomas asks, "also when does this new system of training start?" Siri Macallan says, "Probably not for another six months." Siri Macallan says, "Now's the time for suggestions." Siri Macallan says, "Like I said, this was the way Modus was originally supposed to work... and for the first six months it did." Siri Macallan says, "Now, with improvements, we're returning to our original plans." Having finished addressing the assembly Meghan Thomas sits back down. Damien Lyons stands up to address the assembly. Damien Lyons asks, "Now, when this finally does happen, certain skills will be raised by use, will the skills available be limited to certail classes?" Having finished addressing the assembly Damien Lyons sits back down. John Smithe stands up to address the assembly. John Smithe asks, "Will we still be able to teach?" Siri Macallan says, "Certainly." John Smithe asks, "Do you have to be a certain profession like you do right now?" Siri Macallan says, "No, but you probably will have to have a minimum level of the skill you are wanting to teach, like it is currently, plus a minimum level in acadamia, or something like that." Trevor Rage says, "Based on whatever skills you have, you have different professions you can choose. The more skills you gain, the more professions are available to you." Having finished addressing the assembly John Smithe sits back down. Jordyn Huntington stands up to address the assembly. Jordyn Huntington asks, "My apologies if this is blatantly obvious, but we're still going to a resource location and using training points? And about Trevor's analogy about lifting weights, does that mean that without continuous use of blunt, your skill level in that will fall?" Siri Macallan says, "You will go to a resource location and use some form of training points for soft skills." Siri Macallan says, "Skills won't fall... once you've achieved a level in a skill it stays." Siri Macallan says, "Attributes like strength or agility can fall." Jordyn Huntington asks, "Thank you. And our levels will carry over, even when you change the system - a Secret Agent will stay a Secret Agent, with all the skills they currently have?" Trevor Rage says, "Correct." Siri Macallan says, "This is something I'd like input on..." Trevor Rage says, "You may or may not be a SA. If your skills don't meet the SA requirements, then no, not until you meet them." Siri Macallan says, "Would you all rather have your skills points totalled up and then you can reallocate them to whatever you want in the new system..." Siri Macallan asks, "Or would you all rather have us convert exixting skill levels to the appropriate new skill system?" Siri Macallan says, "Existing." Siri Macallan says, "We can do a survey on that question, if you all like." (THIS WAS MEL'S IDEA) Jordyn Huntington asks, "Yup! Just one quickie: Strength/Agility...how hard you hit/evade, for example, will fall from disuse?" Siri Macallan says, "Yes... use it or lose it." Siri Macallan says, "So for people like me who sit on their butt IC all the time." Siri Macallan says, "My character will end up being a whimp." Having finished addressing the assembly Jordyn Huntington sits back down. Jon Garfield stands up to address the assembly. Jon Garfield says, "I have a bunch of questions, so if I start taking too long, just let me know, and I'll let someone else have their turn and try to ask more later." Jon Garfield says, "One was already covered, about how the current points will carry over" Jon Garfield says, "And I vote for total reallocation, myself" Jon Garfield says, "What about combat skills? From what we've been told, noto is partially determined by how hard you hit (how hard it is to kill the perp), and I for one don't *want* my combat skills to go up, and I know others agree. I think either those should be in a category of their own, or the noto system needs to be changed again." Siri Macallan says, "Hmmm." Trevor Rage says, "I'll look at that when I get to the combat part, Jon. I think we're going to have a big change in that schema." Siri Macallan says, "Maybe we can have a voluntary cap on skill increase." Trevor Rage says, "We may be able to go to a level based system even. We can't do that now because a level 20 Acad. can't begin to match a level 20 SA in combat -- it's not what they do." Siri Macallan says, "And points that would otherwise be wasted could go into a slush fund on a partial basis." Siri Macallan says, "To be spent on other skills later." Jon Garfield says, "That would be good" Siri Macallan says, "I'm just tossing that out... I have no idea how that would work towards balance yet." Jon Garfield asks, "So I could hunt, and instead of my weapon skill going up, I could use those like regular points?" Siri Macallan says, "It's possible." Jon Garfield says, "Ok, one problem I foresee is that there's kind of a conflict of interest between this and the mentor thing" Siri Macallan asks, "There is?" Jon Garfield says, "As you pointed out, good RPers don't always hunt much" Jon Garfield says, "So they'd get weaker and level even less" Jon Garfield says, "And maybe never hit 15, or whatever required level" Siri Macallan says, "We can probably check on attribute decreases to see if that person is in mentor mode." Whis siri Not always true. Just beacuse your a good hunter doesn't mean your a bad RPer. And you can teach, RP, and do mysteries to get notoYou whisper to Siri Macallan. Jon Garfield says, "A level one newbie shows up and RPs his heart out, but never hunts, and can't mentor because he's RPing" Siri Macallan says, "And I was just reminded that we have some great hunters who are also some of our best RPers." Jon Garfield says, "Just throwing things out to consider" Jon Garfield asks, "You mentioned lifting weights to keep your stats up... does the weight room we have now allow us to lift weights, or is that not in yet?" Siri Macallan says, "It's not in yet." Jon Garfield says, "If it does, I've never figured out how to use it" Siri Macallan says, "It's just background right now." Trevor Rage says, "Nothing will change your skills or stats until we flip the magic switch." Siri Macallan says, "And we've got a lot of work before we do that." Siri Macallan says, "I mostly wanted to let people know what's going to be happening, and to give input before we're too far along the road." Jon Garfield asks, "And will there still be a topscore list? Will people jump from category to category, or would it switch to just a long list of like the top 50 players, noto-wise?" Siri Macallan says, "Good question." Trevor Rage says, "Topscore will have some changes I'm sure. I'm not certain how it will be affected." Siri Macallan says, "I don't know yet either." Trevor Rage says, "There are a LOT of professions coming to be, so we may go away from the profession based list." Jon Garfield asks, "Will this affect the profession-specific abilities that we've been told were on the way?" Trevor Rage nods. Trevor Rage says, "Those abilities should be available to all, with sufficient skill instead." Jon Garfield says, "I like that anyone can teach, if they're skilled enough" Siri Macallan asks, "Any other questions, Jon?" Jon Garfield says, "Ok, I think that's it for now... I have a feeling I'm forgetting some, but maybe someone else will get them" Trevor Rage says, "For anyone interested, we currently have a sketchy list of professions that is about equal to how many skills we will have. It'll be a bit of a puzzle for you to figure them all out and what skills they require." Having finished addressing the assembly Jon Garfield sits back down. Elise Evans stands up to address the assembly. Elise Evans asks, "Will it be possible for us to decide how many points go on hard skills, and how many on soft?" Siri Macallan asks, "During the reallocation, you mean?" Elise Evans says, "Overall" Siri Macallan says, "Well... the only skills which will need points to train with are the soft skills." Siri Macallan says, "The hard skills will go automatically up by doing things on the island." Elise Evans asks, "ok then .. um .. will there be a ceiling as to how much you can improve a hard skill in a period of time?" Siri Macallan says, "Yep." Siri Macallan says, "You won't be able to climb the rock a million times in one day to go up a rank." Elise Evans says, "I'm thinking of people who may prefer to do more soft skill training" Elise Evans says, "I have characters who do not hunt at all, and who get killed going to the bus terminal." Siri Macallan says, "We're open to idea." Elise Evans says, "Being able to increase hunting by using it, but not other things seems unfair to those characters." Siri Macallan says, "But... there are a lot of hard skills which are not combat related." Siri Macallan says, "Such as archeology." Elise Evans says, "or they can sit at my creek and fish I guess" Siri Macallan says, "Or even playing tennis." Trevor Rage says, "Well at least now his/her evasion skill will go up when s/he goes to the terminal." Elise Evans says, "ok .. um .. raising strength" Elise Evans asks, "Will things like dancing, swimming, tennis help there?" Siri Macallan says, "I don't know yet... but I like that idea." Trevor Rage says, "Sure. Certain things will affect certain stats in a IC manner." Elise Evans says, "thank god, no gym" Elise Evans says, "um .. let's see .. I was wondering about topscore (no prize for guessing why), but that one's answered ..." Elise Evans says, "... I like the idea of a survey to decide on how to allocate our current points" Having finished addressing the assembly Elise Evans sits back down. Julie McCoy stands up to address the assembly. Cat Starr says, "I've seen some tough 10 year olds." Siri Macallan says, "I'll think about the minimum ages." Cat Starr says, "Perhaps a poll, because people seem to like the idea." Having finished addressing the assembly Cat Starr sits back down. Being your turn to speak, you stand up to address the assembly. You ask, "I was curious on what things we will be able to change..Hair. eye color, weight, height?" Siri Macallan nods to you. You say, "Yeah. I don't want to be 6 feet 7 no more." Siri Macallan says, "Any of the current physical features..." Siri Macallan says, "Weight, height, hair color, hair length, hair style, eye color, skin tone..." Siri Macallan says, "Body type..." > Christian Roth traces the scar on his face. Siri Macallan says, "Scars." Siri Macallan says, "Or birthmarks, etc." You say, "Don't want any of those." Siri Macallan says, "For men, facial hair." You say, "Some woman have facial hair." Siri Macallan asks, "Do you really want women in here running around with goatees?" You shrug. You say, "As long as isn't me. Sure." Siri Macallan says, "Just remember that if you go from huge to petite... some of your attributes will change." Siri Macallan says, "But... Some of the attributes are higher if you're petite." You say, "I'm not huge. just bigboned." Siri Macallan says, "I wasn't meaning you in specific." Siri Macallan says, "That was a you in general." Having finished addressing the assembly you sit back down. Michael Foley stands up to address the assembly. Michael Foley says, "Ok, I have a couple of things." Michael Foley says, "Small things." Michael Foley says, "Could we make very minor name alterations while maintaining the same character? For example, I long ago had a character whose name I misspelled, and didn't notice it until I was level 17." Michael Foley says, "It was a tough name,." Michael Foley asks, "If I wanted to bring back that character and fix up the name...?" Siri Macallan says, "Names can't be changed by anything other than reroll currently." Siri Macallan says, "That's not something we have any control over." Michael Foley says, "And secondly, I'd just like to voice my opinion on the subject of kids, about which I hadn't previously thought..." Trevor Rage says, "It's a pretty tough issue, in terms of mechanics, and one of the few things that are hard to just change off the fly." Michael Foley says, "I'm all in favor. Perhaps kids, because of their disadvantages, could have some advantages...I don't see what they might be, seeing as most adults don't really have to pay rent or taxes or anything..." Siri Macallan says, "Names, not kids." Michael Foley says, "What makes it even tougher in my case is that I later rerolled with the correctly spelled name.," Trevor Rage says, "If you rerolled, the former instance is gone." Michael Foley says, "No, I think I got another character or something..." Michael Foley says, "They were both on separate AOL screen names, I think it was. In any case, I'm rambling and this discussion is pretty unrelated to the subject matter at this point." Siri Macallan says, "I'll think about the kids thing, like I said." Having finished addressing the assembly Michael Foley sits back down. Mike Tucker stands up to address the assembly. Mike Tucker says, "Hi again. ; Just wanted to throw in an idea. Personally, I don't want to age. Perhaps aging could be voluntary. Similar to a merchant. A willing person could age. There would be a birthday announcement...and a cap on how many times they could do it in a year." Having finished addressing the assembly Mike Tucker sits back down. Ami Stuart stands up to address the assembly. Ami Stuart asks, "I was wondering with Hair will we ever be able to cut and grow hair back?" Siri Macallan says, "We've been thinking about it." Siri Macallan says, "Not sure how to do it yet, though." Trevor Rage says, "I'd like to see that, changing hair color on the fly etc.. it's a lot of work, but could be fun." Having finished addressing the assembly Ami Stuart sits back down. Amanda Jackson stands up to address the assembly. Amanda Jackson asks, "I'm not sure if someone asked this, but can we get contacts to change eye color?" Amanda Jackson says, "Like at shop without using a merchant" Siri Macallan says, "We're working on it." Having finished addressing the assembly Amanda Jackson sits back down. Arielle Drummond stands up to address the assembly. Arielle Drummond says, "I just had a question about the hairstyles." Arielle Drummond says, "Would there be anyway to be able to change them in-game. Like going to the beauty parlor." Siri Macallan nods. Siri Macallan says, "We just haven't gotten that far yet." Siri Macallan asks, "Gotten?" Siri Macallan winces expressively. Having finished addressing the assembly Arielle Drummond sits back down. Siri Macallan says, "Okay... the last thing I want to talk about is the problems with out of character behavior that is interferring with IC/RPing." Siri Macallan says, "I know some don't think it's a problem, but I heard someone say yesterday that IC was only when it doesn't bother other people." Siri Macallan says, "Unfortunately, this is a Role-Playing game... not a chat room. And I'd really like to keep it that way. The thing is, how to we show those who don't want to stay IC that it's fun... and that's what the game is about? " Siri Macallan says, "I'm going to open it up for general discussion, and we can just roundtable it." Siri Macallan opens the floor back up for general discussion. Siri Macallan says, "Jess." Jess Whiterose says, "It's a lot of work to rp" Siri Macallan says, "Ja." Jess Whiterose says, "but I like to work on ic with newbies" Jess Whiterose says, "it's hard to show them the basics of doing stuff ic" Jess Whiterose says, "but when you can do it, you realize that it can be done" Jess Whiterose says, "I am in favor of ooc areas with multiple rooms" Siri Macallan asks, "What does everyone else think of that?" (EDITOR'S NOTE: Everyone else pretty much agreed for a room for OOC) Siri Macallan says, "We'd not make more than ten rooms, though." You say, "I like it. Like a coffehouse or something." Jon Garfield says, "I'd rather that than totally banning OOC" Jess Whiterose says, "there are times when I want to go ooc with a few friends" Jess Whiterose says, "but in game I prefer ic" Edward Straker says, "There are times you need to go OOC." Celine Jensen asks, "Would it be possible to put in a group whisper?" Siri Macallan says, "I'd like to." Jon Garfield says, "Been asking for that for a long time" You say, "Or a group private transmit." Celine Jensen says, "They have the group whisper in DR and it makes it easier to be ooc without talking out loud" Jess Whiterose says, "and we can do that in houses, one of the reasons I bought one" Cam Nealy says, "i am personally not here enough to have much of a life to talk about without adding a little of my rl to it" Celine Jensen says, "Just ripping of DR's goodies" Trevor Rage says, "Like a curtain. You can be as OOC as you want, as long as you follow the standard game policies i.e. vulgarity etc.. in the OOC area, freely chat, and on the other side of the curtain is the Island life." Jess Whiterose says, "I'd like it off the comm" You say, "Or what about a few events where RP is something needed. " Jess Whiterose says, "and most people do that with private transmissions now" Jess Whiterose says, "but newbies have a learning curve" Siri Macallan says, "We had a couple of those with the Egypt mystery and the Teahouse mystery." Siri Macallan says, "But I'd love some suggestions for more RP events." Celine Jensen says, "Newbies aren't always the ones doing the most ooc abuse" Jon Garfield asks, "How about designating an OOC channel on the comm, and die- hard RPers could ignore it or use the squelch strings or something?" Jess Whiterose says, "in mysteries there is no excuse" You say, "I know I go back and forth with RPing and being OOC. Its a bad habit." Jess Whiterose says, "that is an event" Jess Whiterose says, "it happens Morgan" You say, "But with an event you learn how to RP. " Jess Whiterose says, "I am guilty as well" You say, "And hopefully you'll take some of those things and apply to it everyday." Jess Whiterose says, "but I would like to see an area for totally chat things" Jess Whiterose says, "those that like that can live there" Siri Macallan says, "We don't want to beat everyone over the head and say IC IC IC... because it's supposed to be fun to play in character, not something you do because you feel brow beaten." You say, "I've notice I get more RP bonuses for my newbie characters than I do as Morgan." Siri Macallan asks, "My question is if you don't want to RP, why be in an RP game?" Cam Nealy asks, "would OOC talk be unexcusable if it was whispered between friends?" Siri Macallan looks over at Cam Nealy and shakes her head. Trevor Rage says, "We've all slipped from the graces of role-play. The trick is to try to develop good habits, and know how to best handle OOC urges." Edward Straker asks, "OOC patches?" You ask, "What about monthly RP seminars?" Celine Jensen says, "Should be ok to whisper ooc since no one hears it" Siri Macallan says, "Hey, I don't get any RP bonuses." You say, "Talk to the lady in charge than." You nod to Siri Macallan. Jess Whiterose says, "there are some real sticklers for ic, and we lose players to that" Celine Jensen says, "Some times you just have to tell the people you're with that you're having bad lag" Trevor Rage says, "I have a friend in another game who would only use whispers for OOC conversations. To boot, he'd also prefix every OOC whisper with a couple astericks ** so you knew it was an OOC comment." You ask, "Could you throw people in jail for on the comm?" (EDITOR'S NOTE: This means YOU! Stop grinning on the comm! Grrrrrrrrr.) You growl. Edward Straker says, "Yes, and fog rolls in in strange places." Jess Whiterose says, "oh you should be on HX, they are nasty in whispers flaming ooc" Christian Roth asks, "Why can't you whisper, "I'm having a bad patch of lag."?" Siri Macallan says, "I'd love to, but only if I can say "It was Morgan's idea!!"" Jess Whiterose says, "but it is a good reminder" Julie Green says, "I saw the fog leave last night from the kiosk." You exclaim, "Sure!!" Celine Jensen says, "HX does tend to be more IC then here" Siri Macallan says, "We're already called emoticon nazis." You say, "And " Cat Starr says, "I think my kid idea would help Role play." Edward Straker says, "Heck fog follows me around." You ask, "Can I lead em?" Nicholas Lancaster asks, "Is it because of the fantasy genre, which makes it easier to step outside of RL?" Amanda Jackson asks, "Siri, is there going to be more of those Suspicious Men and stuff?" Siri Macallan nods to Amanda Jackson. Bobby Stuart says, "They had nice coats." Julie Green says, "I liked those men." Amanda Jackson exclaims, "Don't put them in Spanish though!" Jess Whiterose says, "well I agree parts of my character are rl" Celine Jensen asks, "That's one thing I've noticed as well, how do you know Celine is being OOC unless she says 'AOL is frozen and I'm about to punt'?" Jess Whiterose says, "but you know the difference" You ask, "Hey, just a side question here. When are the comming soon shops going to open in the new mall?" Cat Starr says, "Soon." Siri Macallan says, "Don't know, Morgan." Nicholas Lancaster asks, "And, what kinds of incentives - props, settings, events - would you like to see to help promote RP? Forums, like Morgan suggested?" Amanda Jackson asks, "Is the Theatres and Bowling Alley really going to open?" You exclaim, "I would!" Cat Starr says, "Not another ball." Siri Macallan nods to Amanda Jackson. Siri Macallan says, "Eventually." Jess Whiterose says, "forums are good, mysteries should be totally ic" You say, "Just open a new shoe shop." You nag Siri Macallan unmercifully. Cam Nealy asks, "i have no idea if this has been covered because i arrived late but the other day i did a cartwheel in the record time of 8 seconds,don't ya think thats a little unrealistic?" Trevor Rage says, "I'm personally working on the bowling alley, but it's not on the top of my list.. especially with me working on combat, skills, and perps." Trevor Rage chuckles. Siri Macallan asks, "Are you acrobatically challenged or carrying a heavy load?" Trevor Rage says, "But, I wrote up a design doc and plan to do it when I can." Cam Nealy says, "lightly encumbered 100 in acrobats" You say, "Oooh and a nail salon." Siri Macallan says, "I'm happy do do more RP forums... and I'd be glad of suggestions on what you guys would like to go over in them." You say, "More involement. Kinda like a drama class." Edward Straker says, "Demonstrations of RP." Siri Macallan asks, "So are most of you wanting an OOC area?" Nicholas Lancaster asks, "Forums with ... 'homework' assignments, impromptu scenes ... kind of like an acting seminar?" Edward Straker nods to Siri Macallan. Ami Stuart nods to Siri Macallan. You nod to Siri Macallan. Jess Whiterose votes yes. Shiva Malone says, "I think it would be neat if we were able to act in the theatre." Jess Whiterose says, "and enforce it" Shiva Malone says, "I already do." Siri Macallan asks, "And what shall we do if people are blatantly OOC in the IC area?" You say, "And enforce the thing." Jon Garfield asks, "Would homes be additional OOC areas?" Jess Whiterose says, "and allow the houses to be ooc" Dennis Bauer says, "Make a swirl of mist move them to the ooc area." You say, "Warnings, jail, and then they are forced into RPing class." Cat Starr says, "Allow the houses to be OPTIONAL." Shiva Malone says, "Sounds like traffic school." Trevor Rage grins at you. Jess Whiterose says, "cause the owner can eject if they want" Siri Macallan says, "I know that I like having homes be OOC optional at times." Nicholas Lancaster asks, "Or make it like a traffic ticket. No warning if you go to RP class?" Christian Roth whines for group therapy. ;). You point at Christian Roth. You exclaim, "BAD!" Edward Straker says, "A discussion of everything that can be used in RP." Siri Macallan says, "That would be a GREAT RP tool." Bobby Stuart asks, "Um...can you start jailing people for swing and run?" Jess Whiterose says, "I think it should be something they have to read as they enter the game" Siri Macallan says, "We used to do that in theatre class." You say, "The GMs have to enforce the smiley face thing." Shiva Malone says, "I like the age idea. I didnt' plan on being 23 forever." Christian Roth starts chuckling at you! Jess Whiterose says, "Modus Operandi is a RP game and being in character is a requirement in public areas" Trevor Rage says, "I agree, Morgan. Everyone who knows me knows I love to use emoticons, but in a setting where things should be "IC", they are bad." Amanda Jackson asks, "Is there going to be more dance commands?" You say, "You'll be going to RPing school if you keep it." You poke Trevor Rage in the ribs. Siri Macallan nods to Amanda Jackson. Jess Whiterose says, "as a DM I would penalize them for ooc" Trevor Rage says, "Hey, I use mine only in whispers and email, thank you very much." Cam Nealy says, "maybe OOC offenders can be exiled from rp zones for extended periods of time more for each offense until finaly they are out forever" Amanda Jackson asks, "And I was wondering if like we have hunting groups, if there can be a "Hold All" command?" Amanda Jackson says, "But that would be bad like at the Pub and stuff" Trevor Rage says, "For anyone who doesn't know, emoticons are like :) :P etc." Jess Whiterose says, "they should not be able to hunt that would kill em" Jess Whiterose says, "or buy stuff" Siri Macallan says, "One of the RPing things we did was grant notoriety for people who sent in their character's histories." You ask, "What about another background story contest?" Siri Macallan says, "And one of the suggestions was to have our histories posted somewhere, so others could read them and get ideas." Jess Whiterose says, "yeah I was too lazy I admit" Trevor Rage says, "I liked reading those histories. Some interesting backgrounds folks thought up." Siri Macallan says, "That was fun." Christian Roth taps a large blackboard. Siri Macallan says, "We had some great ones." Amanda Jackson asks, "Can we have more Scavenger Hunts!?" You ask, "But instead we could do it in-game?" You say, "Okay, that might be long." Siri Macallan says, "Well..." Siri Macallan says, "Maybe we could do bios." Siri Macallan says, "Short ones, of course..." Jess Whiterose says, "I admire those that did though" Siri Macallan says, "And have them in the library." Siri Macallan says, "And everyone could read them." Shiva Malone says, "That would be neat." Edward Straker says, "That takes away my mystery." Cat Starr asks, "So, this movie theater thing.. you really gunna show movies?" Jess Whiterose says, "I know my reporter loves digging through the archives" You ask, "And when newbies get of the ferry can you put a map in there hand along with the package?" Siri Macallan nods to Cat Starr. Cat Starr asks, "With the copyright laws and all?" Celine Jensen says, "There should be something in the Town Hall computer data base" Siri Macallan says, "Nah, our own movies." You ask, "Whats going to happen to the archives once the profession thing changes?" Siri Macallan says, "They're fun." Jess Whiterose says, "I am excited about a functional library" Siri Macallan says, "They'll be open to all, probably." Jess Whiterose is a nerd. You say, "We know, Jess." Amanda Jackson asks, "How about a "Disagree" command?" Trevor Rage says, "They'll be open to all, and doing them will raise lit. skill probably, and give noto." Bobby Stuart says, "Any martial arts films? Gotta love that Jackie Chan." Trevor Rage says, "Something to that effect." Edward Straker asks, "Wait, a library??" Siri Macallan says, "That would be cool, Amanda." Cat Starr asks, "Can we write some movies that you show?" Siri Macallan says, "Maybe." Trevor Rage says, "Movies and films could be fun also, yep." Cam Nealy says, "whoops sorry that disapproval" Cat Starr asks, "Will you pay us?" Siri Macallan says, "Maybe." Siri Macallan nods to Cat Starr. Jess Whiterose says, "educational films could be cool" You ask, "Anything new popping up soon?" Siri Macallan says, "Let's have it open up, you can see what we did, and if you want to write a complete film then I have no problems paying players IC for it." Elise Evans asks, "How to Use Your Map?" Siri Macallan says, "Like we pay the IRs now for stories." Cat Starr asks, "Can we star in the movies?" Siri Macallan says, "Depends on if you RP an actress." Cat Starr says, "You should ALREADY know that." You ask, "Then could we have the Mordian awards?" Elise Evans exclaims, "How to Unstick Your Transmission Button when it's on !" Cat Starr nods to you. Siri Macallan grins at you. Jess Whiterose says, "actually I do suggest you all write up a manual to download after the changes" Cat Starr exclaims, "I'm mean and snotty enough to be a really high paid actress, now I can really be one!" Cat Starr says, "Minus the mean and snotty." You say, "I hope no one at the theatre gets there hands on a video from the hotel room." Bobby Stuart asks, "So will this theater lead to working televisions in homes?" Jess Whiterose says, "I hate to say this again but HX has a good dl manual for beginners" Trevor Rage says, "By the way, included in the new professions are some nice ones like Performers, Authors, Musicians, Singers.." Siri Macallan looks over at Bobby Stuart and shakes her head. You exclaim, "I have a working tv!" You poke Siri Macallan in the ribs. Siri Macallan says, "You're special." Siri Macallan grins at you. Edward Straker asks, "and..and?" Cam Nealy says, "since i am a hockey player i feel i have to ask if you have any plans for an ice rink in the future" Trevor Rage says, "Well, what do you want, Ed? It's probably there." Jess Whiterose fathoms Space Engineeer. Edward Straker says, "Film Executive." You exclaim, "Oh, oh! Space Ice-cream at the space center!" You say, "That is some good stuff." Cat Starr asks, "Trevor, if I picked a performer position, I could very well be a singer performer by simply being a performer with high singing skill, right?" Trevor Rage says, "You'll have to settle for photographer unless we delve more into that area." Amanda Jackson exclaims, "I think to make it more realistic we should eat 3 meals a day or lose weight and if you eat a ton, gain weight!" Trevor Rage says, "But, I'm also planning different levels of profession, like the Esteemed Author so and so, or the Famed Photographer such and such." Jess Whiterose says, "forced eating, ack" You say, "We'd all be waifs then." Celine Jensen says, "Then I'd be running to the bathroom all the time" Celine Jensen says, "You know I only drink beer" You ask, "Are you going to put the list up of professions on your webpage?" Siri Macallan says, "I don't even know what the professions are yet." Shiva Malone says, "Sometimes I wish we could be more than one profession." Edward Straker exclaims, "Esteemed author hits perp with book. Critical hit!" Trevor Rage says, "At some point when they are more in stone, sure." You say, "When you re-do the topscore list..Just make sure my name stays on it." Elise Evans says, "Esteemed author bores perp to death." Cam Nealy says, "pens are mightier than swords anyway" Celine Jensen says, "Esteemed author reads book to perp and puts perp to sleep" Kara McLoud says, "Esteemed author forces perp to read book. Perp dies of boredom after the foreward." Trevor Rage says, "Yes, performers are in a similar area as musicians, matter of fact, they require some of the same skills." Trevor Rage says, "By virtue of being one, you may qualify for either." Jon Garfield exclaims, "Ed the fledgling author tries to attack a perp with a book. Ed gives himself a nasty paper cut! Critical hit!" Cat Starr asks, "Siri, for role play sake, would you allow the players to maybe cast/direct one of your or their own films?" Siri Macallan says, "Cat, as long as it's done well, and it's IC for the character and within the boundaries of our policies and our standards, sure." Amanda Jackson asks, "Can we make the perps more realistic looking, instead of 65 year old, 7 feet tall bald women?" Cat Starr asks, "and you're gunna pay us? Oooh.. can we do contracts with you?" Cat Starr says, "to make sure you pay us.." Edward Straker says, "Amanda, I like grannies in chemises." Siri Macallan says, "Yeah, actually, we'd do it like the IRs." Elise Evans says, "I find it weird that a bulky henchman might only be 5'5 and 100 pounds" Kara McLoud says, "most of em don't run around in bikinis Jess." You say, "Ed, some things we just DIDN'T need to know." Siri Macallan says, "So you'd send an outline for the movie, what it's about the scenes, the action, etc..." Amanda Jackson exclaims, "Yeah! It should be a crime to have bald old women in bikinis!" Jess Whiterose says, "those scare me as much as overweight guys in swimming trunks" Siri Macallan says, "Then I'd tell you how much you'd earn if it was decent, and you can take it or leave it." You ask, "Is Cobblers a merchant shop?" Siri Macallan says, "That way no one puts out a lot of work if we don't agree." Cat Starr asks, "The pay would depend upon quality, correct?" Siri Macallan nods to Cat Starr. Elise Evans says, "I'm sure Dan could write you a nice screenplay, Siri." Jon Garfield asks, "Have a "Rejected!" stamp-ring?" Trevor Rage asks, "Cobblers?" Siri Macallan says, "I'm sure Dan isn't happy with me right now." You exclaim, "In the mall!" You ask, "Isn't that the name?" Trevor Rage says, "I'm not sure, to be honest." Cat Starr asks, "and the "casting, audtions, etc" would all be role play, since the movie would actually be done by programming..instead of live by the actors, correct?" Amanda Jackson says, "WE need a better shoe store" You say, "Hint, hint." You elbow Siri Macallan in the ribs in a playful sort of way. Amanda Jackson exclaims, "Oh gosh, and we need underwear!!!!" Siri Macallan says, "Cat, why don't you wait and see what one is like." Elise Evans asks, "You're not wearing underwear?" Siri Macallan says, "Then you'll know what we're looking at." Siri Macallan says, "What I think would be cool is if you wrote a script, had your "cast" learn it, and then perform it..." Cat Starr says, "I think so too." Siri Macallan says, "And send on the edited log, with additions for smoothness and flow." Amanda Jackson asks, "Seriously Siri, can we get an underwear shop?" Siri Macallan says, "No way, Amanda." Siri Macallan says, "Ain't gonna happen." ou ask, "Can we get a laundry mat?" Jess Whiterose says, "we have one" Celine Jensen says, "We have one now" Siri Macallan asks, "And have it eat your socks?" You say, "They don't was nothing." Christian Roth says, "We do have a theater as well, in case anyone wants to start breaking in the stage with performances." Celine Jensen says, "Would be nice to be able to get into it" Edward Straker asks, "And what, you see Amanda is wearing her pink Thursday panties?" Cat Starr says, "Maybe I can finally get the performing guild off the ground." Arielle Drummond says, "We don't have socks either." Cat Starr says, "We did a couple years ago, Christian." You say, "I have socks." Cat Starr says, "Kinda died out." Amanda Jackson says, "We need socks" Siri Macallan says, "I'd like a sock shop." Celine Jensen says, "The theater is nice and big too, just needs a ghost in it to make it real" Trevor Rage says, "Socks are doable." You exclaim, "But first get a new shop!" Elise Evans says, "Weird things happen in the theatre already .. just wave your stick around." Siri Macallan looks at the To Do List and winces. Nicholas Lancaster says, "No sitting in Box Five, Celine." You say, "new shoe shop." Amanda Jackson exclaims, "shoe and sock shop!" Jon Garfield says, "Put socks in the shoe shop" Trevor Rage says, "Question.." Trevor Rage asks, "We've branched off a bit from 'reality' with the paranormal stuff, etc.. so, it's not like real life exactly, but is kind of a fun twist. How do you all feel about it?" Amanda Jackson asks, "Can we make it easier to dye things?" Jess Whiterose says, "Caribbean isles are full of para history" Elise Evans says, "I like the para stuff, even though I'm hopeless at it." Kara McLoud says, "I love the paranormal stuff." Amanda Jackson says, "I don't know anyone who can do it well" You say, "i haven't been able to figure out that sense thing yet." Jess Whiterose says, "I like the paras" Celine Jensen says, "Trevor, in all my life I've seen some wierd stuff that doesn't fit into reality." Ami Stuart says, "I love the miners" Celine Jensen asks, "So if it happens irl why not here?" Edward Straker says, "You keep in the sense stuff, or I'll unleash the squirrels on you, Rage." Jess Whiterose says, "it fits in with mystery" Kara McLoud says, "I love the mine." Cat Starr says, "I think the paranormal stuff is realistic, if you're crazy.." Jon Garfield says, "I think it's more realistic than holding hands with a dozen people or having criminals flood the streets" Cat Starr says, "I mean open minded." Siri Macallan says, "Here's a question for you..." Nicholas Lancaster asks, "Is that the common sense or two sense?" Jess Whiterose pleads with Rage not to replace paras with dwarfs and elves. Cam Nealy says, "if everything was reallife like then why bother coming here" Trevor Rage says, "Good deal. We have lots of good para stuff on the table to work on, and I'd surely like that to be a GOOD thing to all of ya." Siri Macallan asks, "Morgan, was it you who suggested when you hit high age, you can reroll and give your stuff or part of it to your decendents?" You say, "Sorta along that line." Jon Garfield says, "I think para stuff is part of the draw, for a lot of people" Amanda Jackson says, "Wow, thats a good idea" You say, "But that wasn't quite me." Siri Macallan asks, "Would you rather have something like that... or something like a semi-futuristic rejuvenation thing?" Cat Starr asks, "Do any of you KNOW how long you would have to be playing to die?" Cat Starr asks, "Morgan, you're what? 20 something?" Ami Stuart says, "I don't want to age at all" Siri Macallan says, "Yeah, but Armand is 120." Cat Starr says, "You'd have to STILL be playing when your children were potty training their grandchildren." Ami Stuart says, "like Jess said if I wanted to be 100 I'd picked that age" Elise Evans says, "No aging at all" Siri Macallan says, "He'd be dead in a year." Trevor Rage says, "Ok, in the cryo tube with you." Miranda Myles says, "I don't want to age anymore" You say, "I said hit an high age and perhaps "die" where you sent to relocate your skills if you wanted and start an a young ange." Elise Evans says, "Nah, he's in his 80s these days" Miranda Myles says, "Let it be optional" Jess Whiterose says, "naw I look at age like hair and stuff" Amanda Jackson says, "Yeah, make it optional" Cat Starr says, "Armand is like a good jelly.." Cat Starr says, "well preserved." Edward Straker says, "Seems to me that since we don't know much about what those Caribs are doing, that they might drag off some tourists and use secret remedies on them." Cam Nealy says, "whats wrong with 120 the world needs its old wise peoples" Siri Macallan asks, "So... if it's optional, what benes do the people who age get?" You ask, "What if people didn't want to age they could go to a fountain of youth on there birthday?" Jess Whiterose would have created an old geezer if he thought he could rp that the best. Miranda Myles says, "Armand needs some cronies? Nah" Cat Starr says, "Fountain of youth, now that is like..weird." Elise Evans says, "I don't want to have only 52 bp or whatever it is he has" You exclaim, "Its out there! I tell ya!" Jess Whiterose says, "yeah that's like a perp area with aliens" Nicholas Lancaster asks, "But you have to do it ON your birthday, or you age?" Edward Straker says, "One never knows." Cat Starr says, "I've always pictured an old woman going to the fountain of youth, and coming back still an old woman, only with pigtails." Elise Evans asks, "birth month, maybe?" You say, "ON your birthday. That way people don't go to it everyday." Jess Whiterose says, "I mean aliens would fit in a mystery or something" You say, "Or something that would only take effect once a year." Jess Whiterose says, "since they are a 90s sort of thing" You say, "See beneath all my hate is some smart ideas." Trevor Rage says, "There are lots of ways to go with this. There is some paranormal whatever, just plain good ol' technology (be it well beyond what we have now).. etc." You say, "Though being reincarnate into squirels isn't a bad idea." Nicholas Lancaster says, "H. Rider Haggard's blue flames. Once only." Cat Starr says, "I think we need weather." Celine Jensen rubs a semi-auto 9mm pistol. Jess Whiterose says, "I think if you do it like X files you are going okay, Rage" Kara McLoud says, "Wouldn't be much of a stretch for some people." Cat Starr asks, "Has anyone covered this?" Shiva Malone says, "I like the idea of weather." Cat Starr exclaims, "and illness..can we get some fever around here already!" You say, "Oooh. Like a hurricane." Nancy Graccetti asks, "But why age at all if you can just undo it somewhere down the road?" Cam Nealy says, "i seem to remember a big zombie mmystery and even a vampire one so para stuff isn't all that new anyway" Elise Evans says, "Then the doctors might have something to do" Celine Jensen says, "Or rain" Jess Whiterose says, "just cause it fits the genre well" Kara McLoud says, "Storms on the island always precede something really bad happening." Jess Whiterose says, "well and voodoo is definitely part of the Caribbean isles" Elise Evans asks, "Afternoon thundershowers?" Miranda Myles says, "Just weather" Jess Whiterose says, "and anything Bondish" Amanda Jackson says, "And we could have a Weather Channel on the comm" Cat Starr says, "Just because we are on an island doesn't mean it can't get cold occassionally." You ask, "Can we put a limit on the bond and ghostbuster merchant items?" Shiva Malone says, "But the weather here isn't "bad" weather but for a few months out of the year, anyway." Jess Whiterose says, "it is a fantasy game, but when you go medieval then it goes to other genres" Siri Macallan says, "Only if we can put a limit on the shiny skin tight t- shirts." Cat Starr says, "Please do." Elise Evans says, "Yes, please, Siri." Amanda Jackson gets a sparkly gold scoop-neck blouse from inside her shoulder bag. You exclaim, "And the gold stuff!" Miranda Myles says, "Tell that to the men who buy them for us" Celine Jensen says, "Jess if I'm a weapon collector it's not going to be unusual for me to have a broadsword" You say, "Hun, I need sunglasses to look at ya." Jess Whiterose says, "not at all Celine" Amanda Jackson asks, "Yeah, can I stun perps with my clothing?" You say, "I don't have any weapons." Celine Jensen says, "I have to many" You say, "I HATE guns." You make a funny face. Shiva Malone says, "Amanda really knows how to light up a room when she walks in." Jess Whiterose says, "I was bummed when Pavel wouldn't make me a sword but then I decided too heavy" Trevor Rage says, "Not unless you have a fog light hanging around your neck or something." The sun glances off of Amanda's blouse!! Critical hit to the eyes... that perp is HISTORY! Ami Stuart says, "fog light hmm good idea" Celine Jensen says, "I'd like a miner's hat so I can go find gems without dying" Ami Stuart asks, "whats with that rock?" Siri Macallan says, "That rock is brutal." Edward Straker says, "I'd like a bloody tank." Elise Evans says, "I've decided having good gem skills doesn't help with gem searching." Jess Whiterose says, "and I had a newbie go ballistic when he couldn't get nuke weapons in the 90s so go figure" Siri Macallan says, "It's a person hating rock." Cam Nealy asks, "what skill does gem finding use?" Kara McLoud says, "I hate that rock...and it hates me." Celine Jensen says, "and no noto for find sapphires" Elise Evans asks, "and how come we can't wear our miner's lamps on our heads?" Ami Stuart asks, "is there a way we can dodge taht rock?" Jess Whiterose says, "that rock is kind to paras" Edward Straker says, "Flamethrowers. Anything." Shiva Malone exclaims, "IS NOT!" Kara McLoud says, "No it isn't Jess." Jon Garfield says, "The shop should sell TNT, that would light up the room" Amanda Jackson says, "If gold is outlawed, then faux fur should too" Jess Whiterose says, "Hey my baby para does good around that rock" Cam Nealy says, "i'd be willing to get in there with a pick axe and remove the rock for ya" Trevor Rage says, "Put demolition skill to use, anyway." Jon Garfield says, "That reminds me..." Celine Jensen says, "Speaking of skills..." Celine Jensen says, "I'd like to be able to pilfer" Celine Jensen says, "Maybe mug the thugs" Siri Macallan asks, "And if you get caught pilfering, then what?" Celine Jensen says, "jail" You exclaim, "I sorta talked to Trevor about that. Tell em my idea!" Celine Jensen says, "fines" Trevor Rage nods. Miranda Myles asks, "Yeah...I have the skill but who do I pilfer?" You say, "Or steal from the shops." Jess Whiterose says, "well they introduced stealing only from the perps in HX and the players went nuts" Jon Garfield asks, "If you try to "use" something in the mines, it says you need the proper tool in your right hand and your left hand empty... is that something not totally implemented yet?" You say, "And if you get caught you get sent to jail" Trevor Rage says, "I discussed it with Siri already... " Jess Whiterose says, "they hated killing a perp that had no treasure" Celine Jensen says, "Jess I steal anything that isn't bolted down in DR" Trevor Rage says, "Morgan's idea was that pilfering could grant more cash from a perp when you search it." Siri Macallan says, "I personally like pilfering from perps and shops." Celine Jensen says, "You get caught, it's life" Ami Stuart says, "ooh I like Morgan's idea" Amanda Jackson says, "Thats a good idea Morgan" Shiva Malone asks, "Stealing?" Siri Macallan says, "My character in GS3 was a high level thief." Jess Whiterose says, "I hate being stole from as a character that is one of the reasons I am here" Trevor Rage says, "Well, it's fun, but it doesn't make sense." Elise Evans says, "Aren't there good uses for pilfering already? opening boxes or whatever" Edward Straker says, "Hmm, if a situation, a RP situation called for it, I'd steal." You ask, "How doesn't it make sense?" Celine Jensen pulls out a card that reads 'Member of the five finger discount club where our motto is 'If it isn't free is should be'. Ami Stuart says, "yeah waiting for a merchant and people would steal from ya" Shiva Malone says, "My DR character was a good thief." Jess Whiterose says, "but killing a perp that has been stole from would tick me off too" Trevor Rage says, "Being a good thief wouldn't make more money be on the perp." You say, "You'd be able to search em better." Miranda Myles says, "Not steal from each other" Siri Macallan says, "But... I think a lot of our players would be way ticked if we allowed PfP (Pilfering from Players)" You say, "A bad theif would do a poorly job at searching em." Celine Jensen says, "No, I don't like the stealing from PC's part" Trevor Rage says, "Well, we're adding a perception stat. THAT would be more of a way to get more money." Christian Roth asks, "So you wouldn't mind if perps and other NPCs stole from you as well?" Celine Jensen says, "If you can't pvp you can't steal from a PC" Edward Straker says, "They already do." You say, "They do." Jess Whiterose says, "those purty houses at 50 cost money you know" Amanda Jackson says, "Trevor, with those suspicious men, can we put them out of OWF, because if there was a man perp in the area and I typed "attack man" meaning the suspicious man, I'd get fined for hitting the perp man." Christian Roth says, "On a widespread basis, I mean." Elise Evans asks, "oh god, remember the noise when the henchmen starting nicking stuff?" Miranda Myles says, "If there is a limit to how much they take...nah" Cam Nealy says, "it works in DR because you can play forever and never see the same person twice" You say, "About 3 mill." Shiva Malone says, "I really, really believe we should be able to learn skills by doing. Just thought I'd share that." Shiva Malone says, "Unless you stalk them for an hour." You say, "I never keep any money on me. So I wouldn't care." Celine Jensen says, "You'd be surprised how many people on my highlight list I run into" Elise Evans says, "That's on the way Shiva" Jess Whiterose says, "and I admire the folks that have got there and hope to be one someday about 2 years from now" Trevor Rage says, "I noticed that, and I didn't think of it beforehand. They aren't part of the regular rotation of perps anyway, though." Christian Roth says, "As in, start bugging Shreve and you wake up in the alley, sore, and with empty pockets." Jess Whiterose says, "the henchies are just right" Elise Evans says, "They're fun though" Elise Evans grins at Trevor Rage. Miranda Myles says, "If I remember to stop by the Atm" Edward Straker asks, "Shreve's got personal thugs?" Jon Garfield asks, "Trevor, did you hear my question?" Trevor Rage says, "Nope, one sec Jon." Cam Nealy asks, "should they be henchpeople?" Jess Whiterose says, "not bad enough to deter me but enough to make me deposit my dough first" Christian Roth says, "Whoops, Geneveve saw you trekking through her garden! She trips you with an umbrella and snags your backpack." You say, "Only if I can hit her back." Ami Stuart says, "i don't want NPC's stealing from me" Jon Garfield says, "I think if thieving was ever put in, it should be limited to cash" Trevor Rage says, "Oh.. gah, that's an error, Jon." Celine Jensen says, "They already do Ami" Celine Jensen says, "At least the henchmen do" Jess Whiterose says, "well in HX there are little urchins that will steal from you if you hang around them long enough" Celine Jensen says, "I'd just like to return the favor" Jon Garfield says, "Then you at least have protection via the ATM" You say, "The only problem with people stealing from each other is some people are greedy and we do it constantly." Trevor Rage says, "SENSE was going to be done a different way before, and I must've left traces of that old system in the mines." Trevor Rage says, "I'll remove it so you can USE things properly." Siri Macallan nods to you. Edward Straker asks, "What's the status on sense?" Trevor Rage asks, "How do you mean?" Jess Whiterose loves getting blank messages from sense that is his goal after 50. You ask, "And are you ever going to tell us what the sayings mean?" Jon Garfield says, "When we first saw it, we thought we'd be able to use the miners' pickaxes and shovels to find gems" Edward Straker says, "I was hoping that when people used it on us, they'd get some idea of character." Trevor Rage says, "SENSE currently has three main benefits." Jon Garfield says, "That was before the caverns" Jess Whiterose thought there was more mine down there, but you had to find it. Miranda Myles asks, "Like?" Edward Straker says, "Same for NPC's" Siri Macallan says, "We'd have to set it up so that each of us could choose what we wanted other people to sense." Edward Straker says, "Well, perhaps you could choose." Amanda Jackson exclaims, "Ooh, there should be a Monthly Lotto! And we buy tickets!" Shiva Malone says, "When people do the bio stuff." Miranda Myles says, "We have the feel command for that at least" Trevor Rage says, "If we do the 'profile' idea, SENSE descriptions would work in a similar way." Jess Whiterose says, "I do like the idea of special entrances for professions but professions are changing" Elise Evans asks, "How about addresses in the phone books for Level 50 homes?" Edward Straker says, "I'd like to see it become a factor in mysteries." Celine Jensen says, "I'd like a working stock market too but I'm not holding my breath" Siri Macallan says, "Ceit's updating that soon." Siri Macallan says, "I'll ask her to put those in." You ask, "How about moving my neighbor's ugly fence?" Jess Whiterose envisioned a short cut for coroners to ers. Edward Straker asks, "Buy low sell high?" Elise Evans starts chuckling at you! Kim Canella says, "And Lisa's phone number too...so we can call" Jon Garfield asks, "Are those cell phones ever returning, or were those totally scrapped?" Jon Garfield says, "You'll only get the machine anyway" Cam Nealy says, "why only level 50 homes my home has an address too" Elise Evans says, "Siri, can we customise them a bit? I'd like my house name in there if possible." Elise Evans says, "Because we need more perks, Cam" You say, "Your not special enough." Miranda Myles asks, "Private trans takes care of that Jon?" Siri Macallan says, "I don't know why not, Elise." Cam Nealy says, "so do i paying extra rl dough" Amanda Jackson asks, "Siri, do you think we could have a Lottery?" Jon Garfield says, "True, Miranda" Trevor Rage says, "I think the transmit to thing made cell phones obsolete in a way. If you all still want the phones, we may be able to do it some time, but not soon." Siri Macallan asks, "For what, Cam?" Siri Macallan says, "Yeah, our list of stuff to do is huge." Elise Evans says, "Go bounce on your bed, and lean on the wall, then think about arguing." Kim Canella says, "I vote no on the cell phones" Amanda Jackson exclaims, "Oooh, or scratch tickets!" Jess Whiterose says, "naw I value my money" You say, "Yeah. Premie houses have a lot of perks." Cam Nealy says, "for premie services elise said level 50 homes needed more perks" Edward Straker says, "I want a car." You say, "and you didn't pay almost 3 mill." Cam Nealy says, "i think premie homes do too" Cam Nealy says, "storage is a huge perk" Elise Evans says, "3 .. eesh, add a couple" Trevor Rage says, "There's lots we like to do with premium houses, but I gotta tell you guys, that is one monster of a system to change." Jess Whiterose says, "it's a coool system though" You say, "You can come and change my house though." Miranda Myles says, "I want a house..." Jon Garfield says, "That reminds me..." Kim Canella says, "You promised to allow us to turn off the lights though...three months after the utility bills started" You say, "And the easter bunny never came over either." Trevor Rage says, "Well, its bound to be a long, exhausting, and at first buggy system as new things are added, but they'll be added when we can get it in." You exclaim, "Or Santa!" Jon Garfield asks, "I heard someone got a minibar from a merchant for his BCC home, and it holds drinks... doesn't that count as storage?" You say, "No, it was for 50th." You say, "And it was Shonna." Siri Macallan says, "That's in Nina's house. Shonna gave it her." Ami Stuart says, "no I heard someone got one from Helene" Jon Garfield says, "No, I mean more recently" Ami Stuart says, "Danny" > on Garfield says, "Not the auction one" Siri Macallan says, "There's no storage in BCC houses." Amanda Jackson says, "We should hide Easter Eggs on Easter and turn them in for a prize, same with like pumpkins on Halloween... etc." You say, "Oh, and I love the 50th housing merchants." Trevor Rage says, "Heh, I strongly advise against trying any method of storage in your premium homes. The items WILL poof, period. The homes can't handle saving items in them, except your furniture." Jess Whiterose says, "yeah I like the housing merchants" Elise Evans says, "I've seen one, and I had to leave early." Jess Whiterose says, "well gotta have something to look forward to at 50" You say, "Reynold was wonderful." You say, "He did a great job on my tv." You say, "I get Jerry and Judge Judy." Miranda Myles asks, "What tv Morgan?" Jon Garfield asks, "Speaking of which, why are first-aid kits so darned heavy?" You say, "In my house.." Miranda Myles asks, "Do you get cable?" You nod to Miranda Myles. Amanda Jackson asks, "Maybe there should be an option to have an accent?" Trevor Rage says, "Kits will be changing eventually." You say, "And I put Ferd's address on the bill." Tevor Rage says, "In terms of some general stuff." Kim Canella exclaims, "Trevor!" Jess Whiterose is waiting for Ceit and Trev to make more areas for him to choose from. Kim Canella says, "If you change the kits, please don't change the numbers on the menu" Cam Nealy says, "i for one am very sick of breaking four lockpicks to open a useless box " Trevor Rage says, "I can look at kit weights though and see about changing them sooner if they need to be." Cam Nealy exclaims, "random thought!!" Trevor Rage says, "Na, I don't plan on changing those." Jess Whiterose says, "yeah I bought Ed that cape and he can't put one kit in there" Jess Whiterose says, "but it holds a bunch of perp weapons" Siri Macallan says, "Does anyone have anything else for me tonight? I'm fading fast." Amanda Jackson says, "There should be a Tour Bus for newbies that goes around the island and tells them about the different places and landmarks" Jon Garfield says, "Oh, and that reminds me yet again..." Siri Macallan says, "That's what mentors are for." Cat Starr asks, "Do I get to be a mentor?" Siri Macallan exclaims, "Thanks for all the input. It was great!" Jon Garfield asks, "Any thought to the idea I submitted to have appraise show the item's weight, and maybe even the capacity of containers?" Siri Macallan says, "See you guys later." Miranda Myles says, "We can all be mentors.." Siri Macallan slips quietly into the shadows. Trevor Rage says, "Ah, yes.. thanks for reminding me, Jon." Elise Evans says, "Container size before you buy something would be nice." Elise Evans says, "Not too bad when you've got some bucks to spare, but a real pain when you're new." You say, "Those damn boxes in gifts n things are small." Jon Garfield says, "I liked the response time on the suggestion before that, about adding the number of items to the encumbrance" Trevor Rage says, "I can probably add the weight gauge to appraise. Maybe their ability to hold weight too, but we'll see." Kim Canella says, "It would even be okay if we had to pay to weigh an item or see what a container would hold" Trevor Rage says, "Let me chat with Siri about that later, and I'll see what can be done." Cam Nealy says, "i'd like to be able to put my skinny little rapier in my empty weapons scabard someday" Cat Starr asks, "Can we get some Mary Poppins bags?" Elise Evans says, "Scales someplace" Elise Evans says, "My backpack is already like that" Trevor Rage asks, "Mary Poppins bags eh?" Elise Evans says, "and my holster, come to think of it" Jess Whiterose says, "Julian noticed that the chests included the items in them in the encumberance" Shiva Malone says, "Carpet bags." Cat Starr asks, "Yanno, a bag that could easily hold a car?" Jess Whiterose says, "Cathy made great bags" You ask, "Isn't Skywalker copyrighted?" Jon Garfield says, "Only problem I see is, would the weight be affected by skill too, like the attack/defense properties? That wouldn't be good" Amanda Jackson says, "He told me its his last name IRL" Elise Evans says, "Don't forget .. the more you carry, the more it affects your hunting" You say, "Yeah right." Cat Starr says, "We wouldn't be able to go anywhere, but I never leave the pub anyway, and I would have all of my items at my disposal." Cat Starr says, "Who hunts? Not me." Cat Starr says, "This is the first time I have moved from the pub in about a month." Jess Whiterose says, "thanks Rage, it was good knowing what you are gonna torture us with" You say, "Her butt prints are in the cement." Cat Starr says, "Y'all think I am kidding." Trevor Rage says, "If we have a weighing ability added, unless you had a scale to use, it wouldn't be a perfect measurement." Amanda Jackson says, "We should have delivery people from the restaurants bring us food for a little more cash" Amanda Jackson says, "If we're too lazy to move" Jess Whiterose says, "torture keeps me interested" Cat Starr says, "I don't get up to get food, newbies come out of the pub and give me their beer for some reason." Kim Canella asks, "Ho w about a scale, that you pay to use...at the gas bar?" Christian Roth says, "Maybe you can fix the phones, Amanda." Cat Starr says, "So, I sit at the pub.. drunk.." Elise Evans says, "I thought that was another bonus to consider for 50 homes" Cat Starr says, "But, I'm still sitting there." Trevor Rage says, "Possibly, Kim." Elise Evans says, "being able to get take out" You exclaim, "Hey! What about a grocery store!" Cat Starr asks, "If we get take out, can we get cute delivery boys?" You say, "All I have in my fridge is a lemon." Miranda Myles says, "Would be nice Morgan if you could keep stuff at your house" Cat Starr says, "She can, I believe." You say, "I can." Miranda Myles asks, "You can?" You say, "I have a 50th home." Trevor Rage says, "Alright, I'm beat. Thanks for coming folks." >Miranda Myles says, "Okay...everyone you heard that" You ask, "What about my idea?" Trevor Rage says, "And feel to send me more suggestions, reminders, whatever." Cat Starr reminds Trevor to make Mary Poppins bags and put cute Delivery boys in delivery sweat shops. Olga Rothlisberger exclaims, "Lets have a Candy Store!" Morgan Whitney begins to bug Christian with ideas. Trevor Rage wanders off into a nearby crowd. Christian Roth starts chuckling at you!