All Your Base Are Belong to Nevrek Well, well, well. As some of you may (probably) know, there was a picture in the latest edition of the Elanthian Times in Armaxis' story 'Emerald Spires' which, when one held his mouse over the picture, would change to another picture. That picture being the same picture, with a 'Post-It' style note taped onto it, which read "All Your Base Are Belong to Nevrek" in bold, black letters. Some people will become outraged over anything. Other people will become outraged over anything with which I have an affiliation. In this case, the latter happened. A select few people took extreme 'offense' to this picture, and spat out some of the most uninformed venom onto the bulletin boards I've ever seen. We'll call these two posters.. oohhh... Setzier and Iscikella, for lack of more imaginative names. They spoke about all sorts of 'underlying reasons' for me putting up the picture, and how it somehow ruined the story, was an attack on Armaxis, and other somewhat vague speculations on the poor character of Nevrek and/or his player. Others actually suggested I had somehow hacked into the website and put the horribly offensive, out of character picture into the Elanthian Times. The two posters hinted periodicly about some dastardly ulterior motives or other. Fortunately, either the board Moderator removed those posts or the two posters removed them themselves. Now, I sat and watched this for a few days, with a mix of amusement and extreme disdain. Amusement because, as one would find out when I finally did post on the matter, I had not had any part in the picture's conception, creation or execution. Disdain because I have two people (two people who clearly dislike me) stabbing me in the back, rallying other people against me, and going out of their way to poison what reputation I do have. To this day, neither of the two posters has bothered to apologize in any form, though I admittedly do not care to hear any apologies. The showing of true colors and such, if you catch my drift. I did tell one of them not to e-mail me ever again, so that could have a part in it. I digress. I will rest comfortably in the assumption that, since there is no evidence that the posts were made, then they must not have ever been made, and people don't apologize for things that never happened, right? Below, preserved for 'posterity' are the two relevant threads that took place in the Elanthian Times topic on the Official Simutronics GemStone III message boards. A few of those posts are missing, due to their removal and my failure to save them before they were deleted. I did at least get to read them, long and hard, before they disappeared. If you managed to save any of those posts (Why would you?) I would very much appreciate it if you could send them my way via Nevrek@play.net so they can be included with the list below. The only notable changes are the replacement of > and < in the posts due to their use as HTML tags, which would mess up the format. Further, Slashes (/) are used to note text from another's post in subsequent replies. I find it hard to say "Enjoy" the below, but.. it's there, and if you'd like to read it.. go for it. It's a tribute to human nature, I suppose. Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (126) By DREAMRAIN@PLAY.NET (Gladiator) On Aug 15, 2001 at 09:08 So who's idea was that? MISSING: Post 127 Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (128) By KOCHT@PLAY.NET (The Invisible P(Gh)ost Girl) On Aug 15, 2001 at 10:20 I must have missed something in the latest edition of the Times. What are you guys referring to? GG Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (129) By TODDC@PLAY.NET (Wyanthia Jai Lieth) On Aug 15, 2001 at 10:37 Och! It's out!! ::runs to nab the latest edition of Elanthian Times:: Christina -will comment more when I'm done poring over it. Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (130) By ANGELWOLF@PLAY.NET (Player of Many) On Aug 15, 2001 at 10:45 Where the heck is it? Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (131) By TODDC@PLAY.NET (Wyanthia Jai Lieth) On Aug 15, 2001 at 10:52 /So who's idea was that? -Dreamrain ::cackles:: I don't know but it was real cute. ;) Christina Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (132) By TODDC@PLAY.NET (Wyanthia Jai Lieth) On Aug 15, 2001 at 10:53 /Where the heck is it? Tall Tales, page 2. Move your mouse over the picture of the emerald city. Christina Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (133) By ANGELWOLF@PLAY.NET (Player of Many) On Aug 15, 2001 at 10:53 Rephrasing... what website is it in? I'm at work so I'm rather lost at the moment. Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (134) By TODDC@PLAY.NET (Wyanthia Jai Lieth) On Aug 15, 2001 at 10:55 /Rephrasing... what website is it in? I'm at work so I'm rather lost at the moment. http://gemstone.play.net/etimes/et7/index.htm Christina ;) MISSING: Post 135 Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (136) By CARABELE@PLAY.NET On Aug 15, 2001 at 11:00 I'm afraid have to agree that this joke was in very bad taste. That is the second thing in this ET that I have found not exactly up to par. Iscikella's puppeteer (Nevrek's Note: What's the First?) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (137) By ANGELWOLF@PLAY.NET (Player of Many) On Aug 15, 2001 at 11:06 Okie dokie. Thanks Christina! Now that I've seen it, can someone explain it to me? I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. It doesn't even make sense. If it's an obvious answer, email it to me so that I don't seem like a complete twit. Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (138) By KOCHT@PLAY.NET (The Invisible P(Gh)ost Girl) On Aug 15, 2001 at 11:16 A while ago, some hackers took over a web site with "All your base are belong to us!" all over it. I think that phrase comes from some cheesy Japanese video game or something. Anyway, it became a catch phrase for "hackers taking something over". Nevrek took over the picture I guess? GG Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (139) By CARABELE@PLAY.NET On Aug 15, 2001 at 11:20 Bit more complicated that that, GG. Iscikella's puppeteer (Nevrek's Note: Yes, it is, and it's not what you "know" it is.) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (140) By FAENT@PLAY.NET On Aug 15, 2001 at 11:31 For the uninitiated: http://formenmedia.ign.com/media/news/image/hardcore/AYBABTU.swf -Scott Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (141) By FRISKEY@PLAY.NET (That Damn Katt) On Aug 15, 2001 at 13:02 Nice art in the Portrait of Elanthia section... I never knew Roelon had long, curly blonde hair and liked to wear purple blouses! Ah...wait, I see...Rolling your mouse over the picture states that it is a portrait of a Lady Noemmi by Roelon. Morandas...well, that picture sort of scares me. "The Night Skies of Elanthia" I really liked reading as well as "Dark Tower". In addition, I thought "The Thoughts of a Wanderer" was really well written. I've read that one a few times. I absolutely love "Around the Town". Thats my current favorite section. Always good to see Corrig's still abouts. And I always enjoy reading about armor -- The instruments section was really interesting too. It's not something I would normally research or know anything about, so it was all new historical facts to learn. ;) Now, questions and criticism. My criticism: What's going on with the Celebrity Spotlight section? Before it used to be interviews with the famous of Elanthia -- Many of those times it was interviews with merchants and the like. Now theres stories about people there that I have never heard of. I don't know if they are fictional characters (Um, you know what I mean) or if they are really GS characters. Thats sort of bugging me because I really really liked the old Celebrity Spotlights. If those are true characters -- Sorry, I don't play too much anymore so you can't really blame me for not knowing you. :/ As far as the "All your bases are belong to us (Nevrek)" goes... I always considered the Elanthian Times an in-character publication. Meaning, mentioning it in game I did not find OOC. It's kind of hard to maintain that now in a sense since I know that is an OOC reference. I really just found it rather...odd. Leslie (Nevrek's Note: Leslie's great because she's actually constructive in her critique. Fine poster, this one.) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (142) By THUEMEJ@PLAY.NET (Nobody) On Aug 15, 2001 at 14:20 Well, since there's a section in the ET about Europe and weapons and RL sources... the ET has always seemed like an odd mix of IRL and IC things. I thought the All Your Base reference was hilarious, though obviously lost on some people. -Porcell (Nevrek's Note: Mr Thueme has the uncanny ability [that so many people lack] to actually understand things.) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (143) By YLENA@PLAY.NET (Goddess of Fluff) On Aug 15, 2001 at 14:25 At times like this, I find refuge in Abraham Lincoln. Four score and seven years ago, our forefathers brought upon this continent a new issue... Well, no, but sometimes it seems like that long. If you liked it, great. If you're disappointed, I'm sorry, and please let us know what to change for the next one. Feel free to write us at elanthiantimes@play.net - and as always, we avidly await your submissions. Ylena (all your headaches, grievances, and disappointment are belong to us) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (144) By TODDC@PLAY.NET (Wyanthia Jai Lieth) On Aug 15, 2001 at 14:36 //I thought the All Your Base reference was hilarious, though obviously lost on some people. -Porcell The issue seems to be very well written and nice graphics. Keep it up. I also thought that reference was hilarious as well. Christina -uh oh! Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (145) By ILVANE@PLAY.NET (Just what it says!) On Aug 15, 2001 at 14:46 I must be blind, but I can't seem to find it. Isn't that very OOC though? It is the Elanthian times after all.. Ilvane MISSING: Post 146 Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (147) By ANGELWOLF@PLAY.NET (Player of Many) On Aug 15, 2001 at 15:00 I thought it was an IC thing too, but this issue kinda stepped out of that for some things. There's even an article about how to set up a good GS website. Even though she did a great job, I don't think it's something we would have read in an in-game newspaper. So is the ET something we can refer to in the game, is it just something else to read about the lands, like a read-only message boards, or is it just for side reading and nothing more? I'm so confused now. ~Jeanine Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (148) By SUMNAR@PLAY.NET On Aug 15, 2001 at 15:26 /Bit more complicated that that, GG. Iscikella's puppeteer/ How so? I understand some people not liking the OOC reference but it seems to go beyond that? Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (149) By XULIA@PLAY.NET On Aug 15, 2001 at 16:43 //Bit more complicated that that, GG. - Iscikella's puppeteer// /How so? I understand some people not liking the OOC reference but it seems to go beyond that? The objectionable slogan appears to be written on a 'post-it' note. 'Post-it' notes, as we all know, were invented by Romy and Michelle in the early 1990s in America, and do NOT belong in Elanthia. Thank you very much. ~Xulia's Player, the answerer of all unanswerable questions~ (Nevrek's Note: Xulia's good stuff. However, I believe they invented the GLUE on the post-it notes, though the concept may have come soon after.) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (150) By NEPHRENIA@PLAY.NET (She of long posts) On Aug 15, 2001 at 16:46 ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! ::wheezes:: I didn't even see it the first time around. It's simply hilarious! Brand me a non-believer in roleplaying then, because I have no problem with some vague OOC reference (especially ones that made me laugh as hard as this one did). Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (151) By SUMNAR@PLAY.NET On Aug 15, 2001 at 17:22 /The objectionable slogan appears to be written on a 'post-it' note. 'Post-it' notes, as we all know, were invented by Romy and Michelle in the early 1990s in America, and do NOT belong in Elanthia. Thank you very much. ~Xulia's Player, the answerer of all unanswerable questions~/ Ummm...okay. As I said, I understand not liking the OOC reference. Just seemed like some heat went a bit beyond that. Never mind. Tammy Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (152) By XULIA@PLAY.NET On Aug 15, 2001 at 17:35 //The objectionable slogan appears to be written on a 'post-it' note. 'Post-it' notes, as we all know, were invented by Romy and Michelle in the early 1990s in America, and do NOT belong in Elanthia. Thank you very much. ~Xulia's Player, the answerer of all unanswerable questions~ // /Ummm...okay. As I said, I understand not liking the OOC reference. Just seemed like some heat went a bit beyond that. Never mind. - Tammy/ I was joking, Tammy.... I haven't the faintest idea why it's so objectionable, but I thought the 'Post-It' thing would make it a bit funnier, lighten the mood.. ~Xulia, miserable failure~ Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (153) By NEPHRENIA@PLAY.NET (She of long posts) On Aug 15, 2001 at 17:37 Xulia was being sarcastic. Anyone who saw Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion knew that. ;) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (154) By XULIA@PLAY.NET On Aug 15, 2001 at 17:42 /Xulia was being sarcastic. - Nephrenia *pales* I'm NEVER sarcastic. ~Xulia's Player raspberries you wetly with pudding~ Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (155) By GRIMREAPER@PLAY.NET (Grhim) On Aug 15, 2001 at 21:50 /Those of us that do not like it are not 'lost' at the reference. We do not like it because the Elanthian Times are -supposed- to be an In Character newspaper... the reference is extremely OOC./ Setzier, I take it you find Juspera's column on making a successful GS3 related website equally disparaging? After all, that is just as, if not more OOC. My opinions, if it were an IC newspaper, I would read it in game. But since I'm accessing it with my web browser, I don't think it is. Grhim's player, Chris (Nevrek's Note: Chris/Grhim is replying to one of Setzier's posts, which mysteriously disappeared.) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: All my base do NOT belong to Nevrek (156) By SPACEANGEL@PLAY.NET On Aug 15, 2001 at 22:13 I know why it was put there, and found it amusing, however I also appreciate Armaxis' writings and dedication. Braenna's Player (Nevrek's Note: Unlike Iscikella and Setzier, Braenna does know why it's there.) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (157) By XSETZERXX@PLAY.NET (Setzier von Evenlore) On Aug 15, 2001 at 22:37 //Setzier, I take it you find Juspera's column on making a successful GS3 related website equally disparaging?// Actually, yes I did. Setzier's player, shrugging. (Nevrek's Note: Poor Baby. After five years, I'm through with being polite to this guy, when this is all he's ever managed in return.) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (158) By GRIMREAPER@PLAY.NET (Grhim) On Aug 15, 2001 at 22:55 //So who's idea was that?// /I'd surely like to know, because it is in poor taste and has no purpose being there. Setzier's player/ (Nevrek's Note: Right here was a dividing line Chris/Ghrim made with hyphens, but it would show up as an HR line in HTML and is therefore replaced with this long red Nevrek Note.) //...though obviously lost on some people.// //I also thought that reference was hilarious as well.// Those of us that do not like it are not 'lost' at the reference. We do not like it because the Elanthian Times are -supposed- to be an In Character newspaper... the reference is extremely OOC. Also, there is an underlining reasoning why that was made and placed -there-, and quite frankly it is poor taste that it was allowed to stay. Setzier's player, shrugging (Nevrek's Note: Right here was a dividing line Chris/Ghrim made with hyphens, but it would show up as an HR line in HTML and is therefore replaced with this long red Nevrek Note.) //Setzier, I take it you find Juspera's column on making a successful GS3 related website equally disparaging?// Actually, yes I did. Setzier's player, shrugging. (Nevrek's Note: Right here was a dividing line Chris/Ghrim made with hyphens, but it would show up as an HR line in HTML and is therefore replaced with this long red Nevrek Note.) Out of curiousity, do you find the Kelfour's Edition to be especially distasteful? That paper is filled with OOC information. While it was the Elanthian Times predecessor, I would assume that the Elanthian Times was NOT meant to be a completely in character paper. Grhim's player, Chris (Nevrek's Note: Grhim has managed to preserve some of one of the posts Setzier made which were removed through the act of copying the post for his own reply. I further note that Grhim, here, has established precedence for what the Elanthian Times truly is..) MISSING: Post 159 Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (160) By XSETZERXX@PLAY.NET (Setzier von Evenlore) On Aug 16, 2001 at 00:45 ////Out of curiousity, do you find the Kelfour's Edition to be especially distasteful?/// This has gone way beyond off Topic, but I'll simply say this and end it. Kelfour's was a different era of role-playing. Things were not so heavily IC, I think, as it is/should be now. However, I only experienced the tail end of the 'ICE-age', so I cannot begin to comment on it. Setzier's player, wandering off into the sunset. (Nevrek's Note: You heard it here, folks! Setzier said something and ended it all.) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (161) By KRAKII@PLAY.NET On Aug 16, 2001 at 08:58 "Kelfour's was a different era of role-playing. Things were not so heavily IC, I think, as it is/should be now. However, I only experienced the tail end of the 'ICE-age', so I cannot begin to comment on it." -- Setzier . Some of the [KE] articles were clearly and obviously written in an in-character manner. Some of the [KE] articles were clearly written in an out-of-character manner. . . Essentially everyone--that I ever heard of who read any of the issues, anyway--was able to pick up on the difference with, well, about three synaptic firings. And so they read the IC ones for enjoyment, and the OOC ones to find stuff out. (Nevrek's Note: A fine example of why KRAKII is a popular favorite on the boards.) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (162) By XULIA@PLAY.NET On Aug 16, 2001 at 09:58 Just a thought: Put IC articles in the pretty, old fashioned look they are in now. Put OOC articles in a different section? That way if folks don't want to read it, they'll know which section to not click on? Maybe the OOC articles can be on Nevrek's faulty yellow Post-It notes which had to be resecured with a piece of tape?! (kidding) ~Xulia's Player who loves Post-Its, especially the bright neon ones~ Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (163) By RHOP1@PLAY.NET (Sabitor) On Aug 16, 2001 at 10:33 I consider only the IG articles in the Times part of the "Elanthian Times" that my character sees. Sabitor's player MISSING: Post 164 Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (165) By ZILAL@PLAY.NET (Itchy) On Aug 16, 2001 at 13:46 The Times has had OOC articles in it since the beginning, and I don't think it's a problem. If I did I never would have submitted my article on website design (which, by the way, should be attributed to "Juspera's player" and not to "Juspera"). Is it such a crushing blow to roleplaying to have one's character refer to a publication with numerous toeholds in-game (i.e. the press passes) when it has some OOC articles? Where exactly is the harm to roleplaying? The more I play, the increasingly impatient I become with nebulous, shadowy complaints by purists that this or that causes some unmeasurable, invisible harm to the game by "disrupting the atmosphere" or "hurting immersion." I see people making themselves unhappy over a thing so tiny in the grand scheme that the energy expended on its censure would be better spent picking one's nose. Don't worry about it. Roleplaying is safe. There are no barbarians at the gate. Read the Times, enjoy it, refer to it in the game. Z (Nevrek's Note: For more good sense, visit Juspera's Good Ole GS3 Page via the "Weakest Links" link near the top of this page. Of course, finish reading this page first, cretin..) Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (166) By FAENT@PLAY.NET On Aug 16, 2001 at 15:31 I thought the Nevrek thing was cute. I'm sorry, but I don't understand all the folks that a crying "bad taste!" The Elanthian Times is hardly a magazine that includes solely in-character references and/or information. In fact, no such zine has *ever* existed for Gemstone. If you need your memory refreshed, go read some old Kelfour's Editions... -Scott Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (167) By GS3-KENNESAW@PLAY.NET (Kennesaw) On Aug 17, 2001 at 09:09 To clear up any misconceptions, the Elanthian Times is as IC or OOC as its editors choose to be. From my perspective, it appears to be a little bit of both. K Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (168) By NITENURSE@PLAY.NET (Ryshan) On Aug 17, 2001 at 09:34 //To clear up any misconceptions, the Elanthian Times is as IC or OOC as its editors choose to be. From my perspective, it appears to be a little bit of both.~K// That's sure how I see it, Kennesaw. Furthermore, that's how it should be, in my opinion. After all, both the characters and the players read it. ;-) Seriously, folks. The Elanthian Times serves as both a chronicle for the characters who dwell in Elanthia, and a source of information for the players behind them. There's no reason to make it completely IC, or completely OOC. It can, and does, do a competent job as both. Sometimes, it would seem, in our quest for realism we, as players, can become overzealous...to the point of strangling the magic. For some things, perhaps, it's more fun to just enjoy. Ryshan's albatross and her early morning opinion Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (169) By ANGELWOLF@PLAY.NET (Player of Many) On Aug 17, 2001 at 09:48 /Sometimes, it would seem, in our quest for realism we, as players, can become overzealous...to the point of strangling the magic. For some things, perhaps, it's more fun to just enjoy. -Ryshan's albatross and her early morning opinion/ Enjoy?! Can't you see that we must make anything and everything associated to Gemstone completely IC or else it will ruin the roleplaying enjoyment of all the TRUE roleplayers?! ::removes her tongue from her cheek to speak normally:: Some people really need to loosen the reins on the "ruining my roleplaying" aspect. There are so many things in the game that are OOC that we have to remove from our character's brain because it's only player knowledge. Going out of the game into a website is already going OOC. Just because it has IC knowledge doesn't mean that it's null and void because the OOC information is there as well. Seems some just can't separate the two, or can't tell the difference. When you get SO involved in your character that the slightest OOC comment or citing throws you completely out of character, well then I think you're getting WAY too absorbed in your character and need to step back just a teensy bit. I get very involved in my roleplaying too. I don't like anything that's said or done OOC either but I don't make a federal case out of it. Just report it and move along (which I've never done, by the way). Very few things throw me off character, and its really only when a situation has gotten out of control. OOC whispers don't bother me at all. Its when the OOC whispers turn into telling me "just roleplay it". But that's another rant entirely. The ET is both OOC and IC. If you don't like that it includes both, don't read it. Ooo some of you hate that answer don't you? Well, if it bothers you that much that you read it to only just get upset, why would you want to anyway? Just my feelings, which doesn't matter to some anyway. ~Jeanine Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (170) By MALONEYA@PLAY.NET (Ilvane, and others...) On Aug 17, 2001 at 09:58 I don't think anyone who spoke against the odd post-it really thought it ruined their roleplaying experience, they just questioned the validity of it being there in general.. Now that it has been cleared up that the Elanthian times is not an in character thing, it changes it.. Angela, remaining objective..though she hated the joke..:groans: Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (171) By FRISKEY@PLAY.NET (That Damn Katt) On Aug 17, 2001 at 11:47 //I don't think anyone who spoke against the odd post-it really thought it ruined their roleplaying experience, they just questioned the validity of it being there in general..// Thats my stance there. I didn't find the 'post it' message funny simply because that saying has been going around for so long its old. I do consider the Elanthian Times in character as I said in my previous post, but that's not to say that I consider everything in character. I've read every issue thats ever come out - They have a mix of IC and OOC. That story I thought was IC until I saw that. I really could care less about this though -- I'd rather have the question I asked answered if possible. I simply would like to know the reason for the change to the "Celebrity Spotlight" area? Leslie MISSING: Post 172 because it is Irrelevent to the Threads MISSING: Post 173 because it is Irrelevent to the Threads Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Re: Elanthian Times Thoughts and Stuff (174) By BRAKIAN@PLAY.NET On Aug 17, 2001 at 23:17 //I simply would like to know the reason for the change to the "Celebrity Spotlight" area? Leslie// All "categories" in the Times are completely subject to change depending on the exact submissions we have when constructing the issue. If we don't have an article or submission of a certain type, we replace it with another. We run the Times on a discretionary basis. That is, we use our discretion to decide what goes where, and when. As far as the "All Your Base" reference, it was something meant solely for the Player QC end of things, as a joke. They noticed it, but the Editor who rearranged and uploaded the pages forgot to remove it. If you took exception to it, rest assured, it was meant entirely as a joke, and no "underlying reason" was intended. And, for those of you who take exception to the content, well... I'll let Krakii and Kennesaw speak for us on that score, as they said pretty much exactly what needed to be said. Brakian Managing Editor, Elanthian Times Category Role-Playing (4) Topic The Elanthian Times (14) Message Mmhmmm.. (175) By NEVREK@PLAY.NET (Spider) On Aug 17, 2001 at 23:46 I did not make the picture. I did not suggest the picture be made. I do not have access to upload to the site, and did not put the picture in its place. I am not a Kewl Hakker. I help with the player side of QC on the Times, which helps reduce the Simu Staff's time spent on their own QC. During long hours by the player staff working on the Times, occasionally the editors will toss little 'tests' for us to find, or little amusing 'Easter eggs' for us to find and get a little snicker. These things help alleviate the strains of long nights reading text on flickering monitors. As Brakian said, it was never intended for the final release. Just forgot about it. After having sat here and read these threads for the past few days, well.. there's not much I feel like saying. You're wrong about 'underlying reasons' and a slew of other things. You can direct any apologies to the nearest wall, though. Nevrek's an evil snert or some such, afterall. It's fine to speculate on the quality of his player's character and person. -=Nevrek, to whom all your base belongs=- And thus ends the discussion of why All Your Base Are Belongs to Me. I'm sure there are a few people out there who will think that, despite what I and others have said, I had some nefarious part in the picture's creation and that it was all just a cover-up. I'm quite certain there are people out there who think I'm the hugest "snert" ever, and wish I'd never come into the game. I'm alright with that. I know what happened, that's enough for me. I can handle your hatred just fine as long as I know you're incorrect. In the end, my intentions for my character, myself and my interactions, in the game and out, are not quite as malignant and dastardly as some people would believe. I, like many others, am just a college student who plays GemStone3. That's all. --Nevrek, player of