John Paul Jones Chat Transcript - Dec
17, 1997
Last month legendary Led Zeppelin
bassist John Paul Jones chatted live from London with America Online/The
Hub members to mark the release of the new LED ZEPPELIN: BBC SESSIONS. The following is a complete transcript:
HubMeg: Welcome
to Hub Music's chat with John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin! Welcome John Paul!
Let's take a question from the audience!
Question: If you could jam with any musician(s) from any era who would it be
and why?
John Paul Jones: John
Bonham and Jimi Hendrix. I don't think I need to say why!
Question: What do you think were the unique qualities that Zeppelin brought to
rock?
John Paul Jones:
Diversity, power! Let's see... a good stage show and commitment!
Question: What Zeppelin recording do you feel features your most creative bass
work?
John Paul Jones: Oh, that's a hard one. Which one doesn't? I hate false
modesty! "The Lemon Song" is famous. I quite like the bass lines that
are tight in with Bonzo. Any live recording of "Dazed and Confused."
Question: Did you
help in the release of the new BBC release?
John Paul Jones: Yes I did.
Tapes were circulated and we all made a decision on which best versions to use.
We tried to get as much good stuff on as possible.
Question: How do
the "younger" bands react when they find out you are producing their
work?
John Paul Jones:
Initially, they're terrified! But I think they get frightened that I
might want to change them and that they might not be able to tell me what they
want and what they don't want. Hopefully, they find that I'm pretty sympathetic
and that if I'm going to produce a band, I'll let their personality come out.
Question: Do you like
any new artists?
John Paul Jones: Some songs from
some artists, I think. Some of Radiohead. There's a single from the Eels that I
like. I like some of the English drum & bass/jungle. I like bluegrass as
well, at the moment.
Question: If
Page/Plant tour after their album is released, and they wanted you to join
them, would you?
John Paul Jones: No, I think
they've missed their chance now.
Question: Did the XYZ
(former Yes and Zeppelin) project ever really exist?
John Paul Jones: No! It was
pretty much a press thing, I think. It was one of those things you read about
and wonder, "Are they talking about us?"
Question: Did you make
up the bass solo in the Lemon Song on the spot?
John Paul Jones: The word is
improvise -- And YES!
Question: What's the best
thing about this Live at the BBC album?
John Paul Jones: It's the sound
of a young, enthusiastic band. It's a very raw sound. A cocky young band at the
height of its powers and John Bonham.
Question: Jonesy, on
your upcoming solo album, is it going to be entirely musical? No vocals, or do
you sing? And are you doing a No Quarter style jazz improvisation on it?
John Paul Jones: Entirely
musical? Don't you mean instrumental? The answer is yes, it's instrumental, no
vocals, no guitar, no jazz. Pure Rock! (with some funny noises)
Question: You have
such a smooth driving bass style who was your influence?
John Paul Jones: A lot of
bass players from a lot of different styles of music. To name a few: James
Jameson from Motown, Duck Dunne (Booker T & the Mgs), and some of the great
jazz players such as Charles Mingus and Scott LaFaro.
Question: Will we
be seeing any professional live video i.e. Earls Court '75, Seattle '77
released in the future for public consumption?
John Paul Jones: It's always
possible. Every now and again we feel we ought to look at this stuff. Some of
it is good, some not so good. It would be nice to see some of it out there.
Question: I know that
you have worked with Lenny Kravitz in the past do you consider him to be one of
the most talented younger musicians today as I do? Oh, by the way, you do
realize you are the best bass player in rock music history, right?
John Paul Jones: Is that Lenny Kravitz
writing in? If it is, I'd better say that he's pretty good too. He actually
approached me by saying that his bass player left just before the MTV video
awards. He was trying to think of who to use and he said to me, "Why not
call the guy I took it all from in the first place?"
Question: Tell us
about the new "Whole Lotta Love" video. I believe some of the footage
has never been seen before.
John Paul Jones: Yes, it
certainly surprised me! There's a funny little bit where Robert and I seem to be
doing some strange Martian dance together. Don't know where they found it but
it's a good video. I must be biased.
Question: What do
you feel is your best performance on the keyboard?
John Paul Jones: oooh... There's
a piano solo on "No Quarter" at one of the old Earl's Court shows
that was particularly successful. I can't tell you to listen to the bootlegs --
Robert will kill me!
Question: What do
you think of the current state of rock?
John Paul Jones: Well, I
don't know about America but in England it seems to be harking back to the 60s
a lot. As I was on most of the stuff on the 60s that they took it all from, I
can't say that I'm happy to hear it all again.
Question: What did
it feel like in 1985 when you played Live Aid in Philly and at the end of
'Stairway' when all 92,000 fans were singing along?
John Paul Jones: It felt
like we hadn't been gone. Walking on stage was just like coming back home. It
was very exhilarating.
Question: What were
your thoughts on Hammer Of The Gods? We all know that Percy hated it.
John Paul Jones: It's a very sad
little book. It made us out to be sad little people. He ruined a lot of good,
funny stories.
Question: Will Zep be
playing at the Atlantic's 50th anniversary?
John Paul Jones: There is no Led
Zeppelin. And there's certainly no plans for any reunion of the 3 remaining
members that I know of.
Question: John Paul,
what was your favorite band that seemed a precursor to the Zep sound i.e.
Cream, Traffic, Jefferson Airplane, et al?
John Paul Jones: Possibly
Vanilla Fudge. I know that sounds odd, but they really were extremely powerful
plus they had a great stage show. They had two great voices and we became great
friends. We supported them on the first tour.
Question: Did
"The Girl I Love" evolve into "Moby Dick"?
John Paul Jones: It kinda sounds
like it, doesn't it? I think it must've. It was a Page riff. I must admit, I
preferred the "Moby Dick" version as a riff.
Question: What advice
can you give to the younger generation of musicians out there?
John Paul Jones: Keep
your ears open. Listen to all different types of music as you much as you can.
And listen to the other people that you're playing on stage with. Think not just
how you should sound, but how the band should sound and work towards that.
Question: Is
Richard Cole's book an accurate account of all the partying on tours you guys
did?
John Paul Jones: It's
accurate about his partying! I don't think he knows who else was there with
him!
Question: What is
"Kashmir" about? And why the fascination with Tolkien's Lord of the
Rings on the 3rd and 4th Zep albums?
John Paul Jones: That's a
question for Robert. It's about a journey to Morocco but you'd get pretty lost
if you went by "Kashmir". Robert was into all that fairy stuff.
Question: What kind of
basses do you like to play?
John Paul Jones: I have my
basses made for me by a guy called Hugh Manson. He's just today delivered a
10-string bass which I will be using on the record and on the following tour.
Question: What do you
consider to be Zeppelin's best album? And would you change anything?
John Paul Jones: You could
always change things. I like Physical Graffiti a lot but I like most of every album.
There's a lot to like. But when you listen to your own music back, you always
think you could've done better but make another album!
Question: Why don't
you play with Page and Plant anymore? You would still make great music
together.
John Paul Jones: Their plans
didn't include me. Although it did seem to include my music.
Question: Do you
think Bonzo is the best drummer of all time?
John Paul Jones: Of all
time, of all places. That's one of the nice things about listening to the BBC
Sessions, I get to hear him live and well recorded.
Question: Plant
says "Kashmir" truly defines Zep. Page says "Stairway."
What is your opinion?
John Paul Jones:
"Stairway to Kashmir"? That would be a long track! They have
everything that Zeppelin is about. They have similar dynamite to songs like
"Baby, I'm Gonna Leave You" Things off the first album. That whole
acoustic, heavy journey, really. It's hard talking about songs in the abstract.
I could play it for you!
Question: What is
the meaning of Zoso?
John Paul Jones: I really don't
know! Jimmy came up with it. He said it was something to do with Saturday but
we all chose our signs at different times. Bonzo and I got them from the same
book. Jimmy got his from who knows where?
Question: Do you have
any ill feelings towards Page & Plant over the No Quarter tour/album? Did
you WANT to be involved, whether they asked you or not? Did they ask you?
John Paul Jones: In the reverse
order -- No, they didn't ask me. I would've certainly thought about it at the
time. And it was hurtful, at the time. We were very close but time passes!
Question: Is it true
what they say about playing Stairway backwards?
John Paul Jones: I should
think it'd be very difficult!
Question: Why do you use
Marshall guitar cabinets instead of Bass cabinets in your rig?
John Paul Jones: I didn't know
that I did! With the last tour I did with Diamanda Galas? My 8-string bass was
in stereo and the bass head went through SWR bass cabinets and the high end went
through Marshalls.
HubMeg: How do you like
the recently released Symphonic Zeppelin?
John Paul Jones: I haven't heard
it. I've heard mixed reports. And a lot of people have asked me over the last
10 years or so to do something similar. I just couldn't bring myself to. I
think we made the definitive version.
HubMeg: What did you
think of the Moog Cookbook version of Whole Lotta Love?
John Paul Jones: They got quite a good groove -- I thought it
was hilarious. I thought it was a bit cowardly using real drums though. I also
noticed that they used my solo from "All of My Love" from "25 or
6 to 4" (the chica) so they've obviously been doing their homework!
Question: What age did
you start playing the bass?
John Paul Jones: 14. I became
professional at 16.
Question: What is your
favorite Zep album cover? Favorite cover of all time?
John Paul Jones: The one with
the wheel!
Question: Have you
ever been to the Rock-N-Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland Ohio? Tell us more about
your new project.
John Paul Jones: Blues
based and acoustic rock. But using a lot of computer processing and electronics
over a live rhythm section. Yes. I did. It came to me on a train coming back
from rehearsal at Jimmy Page's house. I'd been listening to a song on a Muddy
Water's record called Electric Mud, which had a long, rambling blues riff and I
thought I'd like to try something with a similar form.
Question: What
influenced you in writing the keyboard part for Stairway to Heaven?
John Paul Jones: Really,
a reaction to what Jimmy was playing on acoustic guitar. I think he had already
started writing it with Robert when they were away in their cottage in Wales
and Jimmy had lots of different parts of it which we put together, the two of
us at Hedley Grange
Question: What do
you think of Jason Bonham?
John Paul Jones: He's a
good drummer. He reminds me of his dad a lot when we played with him at the
40th Anniversary. He was the ONLY one who knew all the links between the songs.
Question: Do you
miss touring?
John Paul Jones: Yes, that's why
I went out with Diamanda Galas and that's why I'm going out as soon as my
record is released.
Question: CD or
vinyl?
John Paul Jones: CDs
aren't perfect but I prefer to hear my music without the surface noise and pops
that vinyl used to have. On the other hand, the artwork is more fun on vinyl.
Question: What is your
fondest Led Zeppelin memory?
John Paul Jones: ummm... Playing
at the Boston tea Party for 4 and a quarter hours with 45 minutes' worth of
songs. Now that's what I call improvising!
John Paul Jones: Enjoy
the BBC Sessions! I wish Bonzo was here to hear them.
HubMeg: Thanks so much for
visiting Hub Music, John Paul. This was truly rocking. And thanks to all of you
for coming.
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